We are very selenium deficient here and I am going to start giving the Bo-se shots. I know the kids should have them the day they are born but I am not sure what the dosage should be. Regular dose is 1cc per 40 lbs but my little ones maybe weigh 3lbs right now. So I was wondering if anyone else gave their little shots and would know what the correct dosage would be for kids this small.
Well you need to purchase the 1cc syringes (aka TB syringes) they have the cc's broken down into units and half units. So the dosage being 1cc per 40lbs would mean 1unit per10lbs so a 3lb kid would get a little less then half a unit
Yes I do...but only if ....the kid is weak or has crooked legs ....these are boers ...and I give a 1/4 cc.... so with the smaller breeds..... I am unsure what it would be....
I do not have those syringes, will pick some up. I will be late giving them their shots, but I will be dehorning this weekend, giving CD&T as well as the Bo-se.
I like giving it a few weeks before birth that way it goes through to the babies. I do all the vit shots around 2-4 weeks before kidding time. We are selenium deficient around my area.
I have never used it before, the way I was told to use it was to give to the bucks 1 month before breeding, give to does right before breeding and then approx 2 weeks before kidding and then give to kids when born. GoldenSeal is this how you use as well? I do not want to overdose on it.
I have heard of doing this too but that seems like a lot of of BoSe in a short period of time. are you feeding a mineral with selenium in it? I only give BoSe to kids if needed. Not every kid needs BoSe and you can kill them if you overdose it
True, but we are very deficient here, I know of a couple of breeder that do this and never had a problem. But they also raise the full size goats, not mini's. I wonder if that makes a difference or not.
I give it once a year only. I also give a selenium mineral block as well as the loose minerals 24/7. I actually like to keep the mineral bock out because it gives me an idea of when they need their shot. You'll notice them going crazy on the block when they need it. I do give more than once a year when I see them doing this. I do not give it to the kids when they're born.
Thanks, I do put loose minerals out and they hardly ever touch it but our mineral lick that we have out they use it pretty steady. The babies are healthy, I think I will wait on giving them the Bo-se, I am just to worried about overdosing them.
if they dont show Selenium deficiency then dont worry about giving it. If they are weak in the back legs or hocky then a little dose would be good otherwise I wouldnt give it.
LOL - you know I have been so busy playing with them, that I have not even noticed if they are hocky or not.
If you are in an area that does not get enough selenium, you should supplement. I would not wait. It is much easier to prevent problems, than it is to fix them. Dose your mini's at .25cc at a day old, and you will be fine. When selinium is given with vitamin E (Bo-Se does), it reduces the chances for overdosing. A baby would have to have around .75cc or more in order to overdose. Don't be afraid, its just like human meds. There are things that can kill us if you over do it. Just be responsible and you will be fine. I guarantee it.
I am not sure you can actually guarantee that someone wont hurt their goats with your methods. A guarantee means you will payback or replace what didnt work/broke and in this case died. I wouldnt be putting such blanket statements at the end of your advise unless you actually mean to follow through. :shades: please be more careful with your wording is all I ask :thumbup:
Be careful with the insulin syringes and dosaging. Some are 40 units per mL(1/40 mL), some are 100 units per mL(1/100 mL). So, you could give less than half or more than double what you think you are giving.
If a goat isn't deficient....(not showing any signs)..... they may be getting enough.. through their feed supplements....giving them that extra shot ..can throw them over the edge of over dosing it....creating worse problems..... I myself ...don't give it...in a shot ...only in loose salts and minerals.... if they show signs.... that is when a shot of bo se should be given.... along with vit E...... But each breeder..... can decide......... what method they want to use....... we can only give advice...... whether anyone takes it.......... it is up to them...... :wink: :thumb:
I said to get the 1cc syringes (purchased from www.jefferslivestock.com) also known as TB syringes I didnt say a thing about insulin syringes. :whatgoat:
I said that because some people may not know exactly what they have. To someone who doesn't know better, "tuberculin" and "insulin" are pretty close. And, insulin syringes can be picked up in the nearest drug store. I have seen someone mix them up "They looked the same...". Merely putting out information to help keep people from giving the wrong dosage.