And no, I don't have photos yet. (Hides from angry glares ) I took a couple but it was very dark and you can't even see them. She was screaming like crazy yesterday. I went and felt her ligaments, which were totally gone, so I stayed home all day. She went down and started pushing right after it got dark (of course.) I managed to lose both of my shoes in the mud and was running back and forth to her pen barefoot with mud almost up to my knees...in a nightgown with a flashlight in my mouth and one under my arm. I'm almost glad it was dark because I probably looked like an insane person. In any case, both are very small. I almost thought premature at first, but they seem fully formed and have their teeth. Mom ran away from the first one at first because she didn't know what it was, but once I rubbed some ick on her nose she was a great mom. I had to take them both inside because they were very tiny and weak. They cried and flailed around at first but couldn't suck and went downhill very fast so that they could barely move. I milked colostrum out of mom and made sure she had no more babies inside by bouncing her and palpating her tummy. I wrapped them in towels in a basket and put a heating pad over them on low. I syringe fed them a little colostrum and then gave them some karo syrup. I also mixed a little pedialyte in the colostrum to give them some electrolytes since I've always been taught having a low body temperature comes with dehydration and a goat breeder told me it might help. It was scary for about an hour but they finally perked up and by a couple hours after birth were finally strong enough to stand although their suck response was still very poor. I syringe fed them colostrum every 15 minutes for a couple of hours, and then fed them every 2 hours through the night. By morning they were alert and sucking and acting like normal babies (mostly.) Up until tonight (about 7 p.m.) they were awfully wobbly compared to Misty when she was born (but then 3 of them made one of her as a newborn.) They still aren't jumping or playing but they are alert and swishing their little tails and eating and going potty and sort of trying to butt each other. I will post photos tomorrow in the photo section at the top of this forum as Stacey instructed us all to do from now on. Any suggestions? They are in the barn with a heat lamp and seem to be pretty fine. I just think they could have cooked in mama a bit longer before coming out. Lol. :kidred: :kidred: - One is identical to mom, a strongly marked buckskin. The other is the same basic color but much lighter, and the only black is on her face, a badger mask or whatever if I'm not mistaken. Both have blue eyes! So, two doelings, two blue eyed babies. Score! :clap: I was actually hoping for a little buck because I like this girl so much, but I'm definitely not complaining.