Due Dates???

Discussion in 'Kidding Koral' started by Farmer Gab, Jul 8, 2008.

  1. Farmer Gab

    Farmer Gab New Member

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    Jun 25, 2008
    Flagstaff, Arizona
    We borrowed a buck from my breeder on February 9th and he lived with our two does until he went home on June 21st. As I posted, Dahlia delivered a stillborn kid last Tuesday, which was early. Sweet Pea has yet to kid. According to my calculations the actual due date is tomorrow IF he got to both of them on the first day he was here. How do I truly caculate her due date??? What if she wasn't bred within the first few weeks? Should I be on high alert for the next month til she kids? Argh! Learning the hard way is NOT fun!!!

    Thanks,

    Gabrielle
     
  2. kelebek

    kelebek New Member

    Oct 5, 2007
    South Texas
    yeppers - it is hard. Since they were together the whole time -it might be a bit tricky.

    Did you ever "see" the deed? that would definately help to determine the dates.

    It is a FUN waiting game that I know all to well - :ROFL:
     

  3. Farmer Gab

    Farmer Gab New Member

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    Jun 25, 2008
    Flagstaff, Arizona
    For the first week (or so), it seemed like all he did was the "deed"! But since I am not into goat watching 24/7, I am not really sure....

    PANIC!
     
  4. kelebek

    kelebek New Member

    Oct 5, 2007
    South Texas
    My house hold calls it goat porn :ROFL: because I will come in saying so and so was bred! LOL!

    Then one day I finally got my 17 year old daughter out in the pen and my gabriel started his deed on a doe that was running and ran right in between us and "finished" and flung himself backwards - needless to say, my daughter had NEVER come back out to the barn - :ROFL: I cried laughing so hard!
     
  5. StaceyRosado

    StaceyRosado Administrator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Oct 4, 2007
    NJ
    you have a LARGE window of a due date. But what you can do is figure this.

    Ok so you saw the deed done on X day --- count 150 days from there and that is your due date (you said that would be tomorrow) if she doesn't go by 155 and shows no signs (example: tight udder, ligaments gone, discharge etc) then count another 21 days away to when her next heat would have been and therefore she would have been bred a second time. Keep doing this until you see signs of impending birth.

    Explanation of somethings i just mentioned. Forgive me if you know this already.

    Goats gestation is 140-155 days
    Goats go into heat every 19-21 days
    impending birth signs include extra tail wagging, discharge (of any color, when it reaches amber you know birth is close by) udder most times, though not all the time, will get tight and very full hours or just before kidding.
    Checking for loose or gone ligaments requires a little knowledge of the goats rump area. YOu feel down her spine to where it drops off toward the tail. At that point there will be to ligaments that run in a V pattern (open end of V near tail head). You feel DOWN for them. IN a goat who is not ready to kid or is not pregnant you can feel them very prominently and they feel like bone (some say pencil-like). On a goat who is ready to give birth they become so loose that you can't feel them anymore. Sometimes a goat will "loose" one side before the other.

    I hope that wasn't to much information all at once. Of course feel free to ask anyone or myself to explain it better or clarify.
     
  6. Farmer Gab

    Farmer Gab New Member

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    Jun 25, 2008
    Flagstaff, Arizona
    Thanks for all the info! It makes things totally clear for me...well, as clear as can be! I am going to go check Sweet Pea right now, but I realize I could be looking at another month away! :GAAH: