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Emaciated Nubian...

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This is Skittles - I've had her for just about a week now. She came from a sale barn (I don't go to the sale barn for this reason but the person who bought her brought her to me...). Currently I have her on day 3 of 4 days of Penicillin am giving her Molly's Herbal Immune Support (both for runny nose and cough) and have wormed her with cydectin. She gets about a pound of 14% BlueBonnet sheep and goat 2x's a day and is either in the yard with grass or in her stall with marshall rye hay during the day, at night she gets maybe a 1/4 flake of alfalfa. I think she may have mastitis and will start treating her with tomorrow tomorrow (have to run and get more, only have 1 tube). I can't get anything out of her bag but it feels cottage cheesy...
Any other ideas???

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I'm thinking you have mineral out and just didn't mention it. Is that right? Other than that, it sounds like you have it covered! She sure is a pretty girl!
Yes, I do have mineral out. I keep mineral and baking soda out free choice all the time for all the goats...
She is a pretty girl and very well behaved - somebody fed her well in the beginning I would imagine for her to have the structure she has and she walks and hops up on the stand beautifully. Just makes me sick that she ended up this way...
I would give her 500mgs of vitamin C daily to help her heal her udder. Peppermint udder cream can really help break up the clots and congestion as well. Putting weight on is simply a matter of good food for long enough once underlying issues are cared for.
I would want to get a fecal done and blood testing for CAE and Johnne's.
You could always add calf manna or rice bran to her diet :) Sounds like you are doing a good job.
I think I would leave her diet as it is for now and once she is over her snotty nose and possible mastitis I would slowly add some calf manna. With starved animals you want to go really slow on adding feed so that you don't overload their system right away and cause it to shut down.
Are both halves of her udder cheesy? I would save a sample and have it tested before you start treatment. That way, if the treatment you use doesn't work, you can have a culture grown to see what type would work.

Are you sure she isn't just dried off and the milk remaining hasn't just thickened before being absorbed?
I make my own udder cream and normally use tea tree oil but can easily make a new jar with peppermint just for her. Hadn't even thought of testing for Johnne's and/or CAE yet but I guess they could be the reason she's in the condition she's in... Will call doc in the morning.
I will probably start her on calf manna in the next few days. I've never brought back an emaciated goat before but have brought back a few horses and know with them we have to be careful about giving them too much too soon... I just didn't want to risk bloat or scours by doing just that...
Are both halves of her udder cheesy? I would save a sample and have it tested before you start treatment. That way, if the treatment you use doesn't work, you can have a culture grown to see what type would work.

Are you sure she isn't just dried off and the milk remaining hasn't just thickened before being absorbed?
No, I'm not sure of that at all. She is dry and from the looks of her it's been quite awhile since she's been in milk but her bag feels lumpy on the inside.... and yes both sides feel the same.
Last night I put her on the milking stand and massaged her udders for several minutes. I could feel some soft gooey substance so I tried to expell it again and had luck :) From the left side I got a tablespoon or so of yellowish puss and then milky watery fluid - from the right I got cottage cheese... I looked at Molly's mastitis salve and can make my own quicker than I can order it. Will make it and start that treatment tonight. If I can get her cleaned out this way should I still treat her with tomorrow?
She is not swollen or red and shows no sign of being in pain....
She is beautiful..once you get her better you will have one awesome goat..large bone, sweet face...Love her..!!! Im glad you are able to rescue her. I agree with whats been said here...Please do test for CAE..its good to know so you can take precautions...Since you ar well on your way with her other issues I will add this:

If you can have a fecal done, be sure to check for cocci...if not I would still worm her..stress opens the door to worm load...I would choose Valbazen 1 cc per 10# or Ivomec plus 1 cc per 40# sub Q.
Check her for anemia as well...
http://goat-link.com/content/view/110/107/#.Uk2OvmSDTL8
Dimethox fro cocci treat is 1 cc per 5# day one and 1 cc per 10# day 2-5 or I prefer Baycox 1 cc per 5# then repeat in 10 days...
I would definitely still treat with Tomorrow. You really want to get the mastitis totally cleared up as soon as possible so there isn't permanent damage.
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