We do not own a buck, but we do have arrangements made for my yearling (1 year and 7 months to be exact) Alpine and 2 y.o Nubian to be taken to the buck whenever they come into heat. The only problem is that they have not come into heat yet! Last year, I never saw my Alpine doe in heat at all. Our Nubian came into heat the first time about this time, and was bred on her second heat on Holloween. She was always very loud and panicky, so that is how I was able to tell. I really want kids earlier this time though. I am going to start walking then down the road, past our neighbor's bucks a few times a week. The only issue is that I can't even smell them this year. If all else fails, I might end up ordering some CIDR's. Does anyone have any other suggestions?