Everyone I've lost (Jan-Sept)

Discussion in 'Rainbow Bridge' started by TheMixedBag, Dec 15, 2010.

  1. TheMixedBag

    TheMixedBag The Hoofcare and Repro specialist

    Oct 16, 2010
    Glencoe, OK
    Figured I may as well put up everyone I've lost from this year (second year raising goats, only year we've had anything die)

    First, Eli, a $20 pygmy buckling we bought in October of '09. His collar got caught in our doe's horns (something they'd done and gotten loose from many times) and snapped his neck. He was mostly wild, but an absolute sweetheart when you had hold of him.
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    The next goat we lost was Tag, in June, from liver fluke. We were treating for bottlejaw at the time, and never even thought of using Ivomec Plus. Lenore (below) died a week later from the same thing, and possibly because she missed Tag too much. They were very attached (she was pure saanen, I don't know where the red came from)
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    Them pictured together, a month before they died.
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    Then there was Billy, a free buck to replace Tag. He was attacked and eaten by 3 dogs, one of which was killed when they tried the same move on a bull. How Jenny survived, I still don't know. He was her half brother and, being raised together before I got the two of them, he loved nursing off of her. He was 5 months old.
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    Lastly, Eclypse, an American Alpine. She wasn't in great shape when we got her, she had gotten back from a horse farm, where she was being milked for an orphan foal. The 2nd day we had her, she got enterotoxemia, and 8 days later, when she was finally improving, she snapped her neck rolling on a rock under the porch.
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  2. liz

    liz Well-Known Member

    Oct 5, 2007
    Shelocta PA
    :hug: I am so sorry you have lost so many :hug:
     

  3. peggy

    peggy Senior Member

    Aug 10, 2010
    B.C. Canada
    How sad. I am so sorry for your losses.
     
  4. nancy d

    nancy d Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Oct 5, 2007
    near Seattle
    Oh my Im so sorry for you. What tough time :hug:
     
  5. lissablack

    lissablack New Member

    Nov 30, 2009
    You have had a really hard year. I am so sorry. It will be better.

    Jan
     
  6. toth boer goats

    toth boer goats Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Jul 20, 2008
    Corning California
    That is so sad... :( I am very sorry ...for your losses..... :( :hug:
     
  7. TheMixedBag

    TheMixedBag The Hoofcare and Repro specialist

    Oct 16, 2010
    Glencoe, OK
    We live and learn, don't we?

    My real problems didn't start until I got Jenny. Of course, I'm kind of happy I have her and not Lenore. I know it sounds harsh to say, but she was sterile, destroyed fences, and bullied other goats constantly. She was a sweetheart, but a troublemaker I was about to sell.
    Tag, I didn't want to lose him, but it was inevitable. He had pneumonia when I got him, and he had pneumonia when he died (I got him in January, he died in June). He also could not eat anything, not hay, not grains, not anything, without throwing most of it up. I tried large rocks in the feed to slow him down, I tried hand-feeding him, I tried everything. He always threw most of it up.
    Billy, of course, I was furious over. Me and my husband sat on the roof of our shed, just waiting for a dog, any dog, to come too close to that fence (I did make sure it was legal, being in town and all, and while it's *technically* not, the cop's been friends with us a long time, and promised it would be ok). Didn't need to. They attacked a heifer and the bull, crippled the heifer and the bull crippled them.
    Eclypse, well, I liked her, but she was freaky, unhealthy, poorly built (she had granny teats as a FF, to put it nicely....), and had been through a fairly rough time (I might also mention Billy was her son, and it looks like fate didn't like either of them). It was rough seeing her go, but again, it was probably for the best, as with her, I wouldn't have Milky Way, and I certainly wouldn't be getting another nubian.
     
  8. toth boer goats

    toth boer goats Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Jul 20, 2008
    Corning California
    yes we sure Do...unfortunately... :hug:

    Some goats are bully's...but.. they are top goats.. on the totum(sp) pole.... every herd has one.... and goats will destroy fences.... even by climbing on them..... or getting there heads stuck.... so ...that is why... an electric fence... keeps them off of it... so they cannot destroy them.....

    You say... Tag was throwing up... are you sure he didn't eat something poisonous?.....Activated charcoal... is good have around... in those cases.....

    when he was throwing up ...all the good flora ...that was...in the gut... was killed off ....he threw it up.........the gut needs to have it...for the goat to survive....and the gut.... needs to be re started ....short a speak.... A shot of Banamine ...helps the gut... in a situation like that... you never want to feed grain ....at that point ....just good hay...if the goat will try to eat... Stealing cud from a healthy goat is good to ... slurry it... in the blender ...with a little water and tube the goat ...

    Did you get a temp on Tag...because it sounds more like... poisoning from a plant ect...? Look at all ...plants ....that your goats are around or can reach...

    Not all nubians have issues...I had a few... in the past and I loved them...gorgeous animals and they bred well ...to a boer buck... :wink:
     
  9. TheMixedBag

    TheMixedBag The Hoofcare and Repro specialist

    Oct 16, 2010
    Glencoe, OK
    With Tag, it was a matter of eating far too quickly and everything getting lodged in his throat at once. Like I said, it didn't matter what he'd eat, it'd be thrown up. And while I never got a temp on him, I can almost guarantee it would have been high. He had maybe one month where he was in good health, and soon as it warmed up, he went right back to coughing and sneezing.

    I also think you misunderstood me on the last bit. Eclypse wasn't a nubian, she was an Alpine.

    And yes, Lenore was a huge destroyer of fences. Electric fencing didn't do anything for her, she'd willingly get shocked just to get out. I think the boer wether we found had something to do with encouraging her, but it was her biggest issue. She did nearly kill herself getting caught in the fence a few times, too.
     
  10. rocky_ridge_goats

    rocky_ridge_goats New Member

    96
    Aug 6, 2010
    I hope you feel better about it soon. They are off in greener pastures with the best shepherd in the world. You've done your best by giving them your love!
     
  11. toth boer goats

    toth boer goats Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Jul 20, 2008
    Corning California
    Just trying to figure out what happened that is all.... :hug: :wink: