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Discussion in 'The Chatter Box' started by Damfino, Nov 14, 2020.
Here’s a pic of our Doberman. His name is Booger lol.
OMG I love him!
Had a black Doberman, he was a very loving, smart, dedicated handsome dog. Love them.
@Damfino - any news on your friends charges?
Thanks for asking. My friend had her arraignment on December 16th and she pled "not guilty" by reason of protecting livestock. The judge did not dismiss the case and I think it's because the DA really wants her to plead guilty to a lesser charge. It just goes to show how corrupt our "justice" system is in this country. It's all about winning cases and it's rarely about actually making sure justice is served. So at this point I think it's a game of chicken with the DA. If he can get my friend to panic and take the lesser charge, he wins. If she decides to fight this it's going to cost her a lot of money, but she decided to fight it anyway. I think the case can still be dismissed before the trial on April 15th and I truly hope it is. I think my friend will win her case if it's heard in court, but as I said, it's a lot of expense and bother for her to win. It's also scary because if she gets found guilty of animal cruelty, the penalty could be 12-18 months in jail. The threat of this possibility is enough to make many people plead to lesser charges even if they're totally innocent, which of course is not justice at all.
The man with the dogs had his arraignment a few weeks ago and he pled guilty to ELEVEN "dog at large" charges. He just paid the fines and went home. The dogs have been "at large" several times since then and my friend has it on camera but she knows now that no one is going to do anything about it. The owner doesn't care how many fines he pays and the authorities seem totally uninterested in taking his dogs away. My friend is also afraid to call the cops now. When they came to question her they said they weren't considering charges against her and then they charged her anyway! So now she doesn't want the cops out to her property again.
Word on the street is that the dog owner launders money for some drug lord up in Denver so he's flush with cash and doesn't care how many fines he pays. The man has a serious criminal record and has spent time in jail in the past, so I'm actually kind of wondering if the authorities are avoiding hitting him on any small potatoes charges because they're trying to build a big case so they can put him away for a long time. I really hope that's what's happening. He shot 30 rounds off in the direction of my friend's house after the dog incident. Apparently he has at least one fully-automatic weapon in his house and numerous other weapons despite his felony record. The cops know he has guns but have not charged him with illegal weapons possession which makes me think they might be building a bigger case. It will be interesting to see how things develop over the next few months.
Wow. How horrible.
Ugh. I feel for your friend. If she hits the court with all her evidence and she is found guilty she will have a strong case for appeal. But this will ruin her. Its a rock and a hard place. I am a legal advocate and I can see the holes in the DA case.
I was going to ask how the case was going. What a crazy thing for your friend. I sure wish your friend the best.
Oh my, how awful.
I think I would go PUBLIC with this information on her trial. It sounds like a farse. All it takes is for the Judge & Attorney to be Publicised outside of their tiny jurisdiction. Let others SEE whats going on. Wonder how fast her case would be excused.
Wow..prayers for your friend!! It's unbelievable
So I have to know how all of this has played out. Any new news about the case? I’m rather new here still, so my early mornings have been dedicated to browsing this forum. I’m very curious about this.
Yes, I was just thinking about asking how this was going.
I have 2 things to say...
My husband got a pitbull and I managed it until he was 11 years old. He got out of his yard and killed 1 of my goats, most of my chickens, and I found out later that he'd been killing the the cats for years.
One day we put our goats out across the creek in the back of our property. About half an hour later our dog chased the goats in and dissapeared.
We get a frantic call from our neighbors that my dog is chasing his sheep.
We run over and the sheep are coming out of the barn and laying in the sun.
The dog put his sheep away. The next day one of his heifer calves was killed by a cougar that was big enough to drag it up a tree.
Years earlier but, best dog I've ever owned. He was German Shepherd and wolf.
I lost interest in this thread when the mods took control of it and then I forgot about it.
I talked to my friend the other day. She's fighting the charge which has so far cost her $6000 in lawyer fees. If she pleads guilty to a lesser charge she'll get a slap on the wrist but the dog owner has already said he'll sue her in civil court, so she's between a rock and a hard place. Her lawyer is trying to get the charges dropped based on incomplete evidence on the part of law enforcement. It seems that the cop who brought the charges is one of those people who thinks anyone who hurts or kills a dog is automatically guilty. She never even looked at the place where the dogs were shot, the footprints and blood in the snow next to the horse corral, etc. The dog owner claimed my friend shot his dogs on his own property and the cop never investigated that claim. The dog owner is caught lying on body cam and the cop never even looked into it or checked his story against my friend's story. The fresh snow told the story but the cop refused to look even when my friend offered to show her.
The cop further stated that the dogs had no prior incidents and were harmless. But that was also a lie because animal control sent her a lengthy report on these dogs' history with multiple dog at large and dangerous dog charges--she chose to ignore that report. The dates confirm that she'd received animal control's report prior to filing her own (very different) report. Unfortunately my friend doesn't have any recourse to press charges against the cop. There are too many laws granting immunity and protection to police even when they are totally corrupt. We should know this week if the trial gets thrown out. If not, it's scheduled for April 15th.
In any case, when all is said and done I'll be calling the sheriff and telling him what I think of this deputy. No one wants to call the cops if corrupt, dishonest, and unreasonable people are allowed to remain on the force. We need some serious police and justice reform in this country. Apparently 99% of criminal cases in this county are plea bargained, and 95% in the state are plea bargained. That's not justice. If it costs this much to stand trial, it's no wonder that people take the plea bargain even if they're not guilty. And it's a good (or bad!) way for guilty people to walk free with a slap on the wrist. Whatever this system is, it's not justice. And there really needs to be a way to go after dishonest cops. We truly give them way too much power and authority without requiring them to earn it, and we have very little recourse when some choose to abuse it.
I hope the trial goes in your friend's favor, this ain't fair to her, she did nothing wrong.
So unbelievably messed up and corrupt! I feel so bad for your friend. She only did what all of us would have done. I really hope things work out in her favor.
Had this same thing happen to a friend of mine last December. Three dogs running loose on a rural neighborhood road, Shepherd/Pit crosses. Numerous neighbor complaints. Dangerous dogs.
My friends take turns walking their pet Pyr about a mile every morning. One morning, the 3 dogs came running out, snarling. While he was fending off one of them, another one ducked in and grabbed the bottom of his arm, doing a lot of damage. Cops confiscated the dogs.
There was a virtual hearing, with many of the neighbors testifying. The judge told the owner--you know, its legal to shoot a dog in KY that is attacking/threatening humans or livestock. You're lucky these people aren't pressing charges. He then ordered her to confine the dogs, or lose them for good.
So she put up CHICKEN WIRE to keep them in. Last I heard, the dogs were gone again.
LOL No Body no Crime folks. Just a little tip...just a tip...