Fish Tails

Discussion in 'Health & Wellness' started by agilitymaster01, Sep 13, 2014.

  1. agilitymaster01

    agilitymaster01 Rose Creek Acres

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    Sep 25, 2013
    La Crescent, MN
    Ok Guys. I offer free choice Cargil Ready now Onyx loose mineral. (as suggested by so many) Some goats still have fish tails, but some do not. One of my bucks has it, the other doesn't. What does one do in that case? I have tried showing them the bucket or mineral, I've tried hand feeding it, and nothing. They sniff it, but walk away. Do I do the method of if they don't take it, they don't need it? Thanks for the assistance.:-D
     
  2. ksalvagno

    ksalvagno Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Copper bolus. I have to copper bolus about 3 times a year even with a good loose mineral.
     

  3. agilitymaster01

    agilitymaster01 Rose Creek Acres

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    Sep 25, 2013
    La Crescent, MN
    Ok. I will have to try to find some. Do you wait until you see the fish tails, or do you do it regardless?
     
  4. agilitymaster01

    agilitymaster01 Rose Creek Acres

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  5. lottsagoats1

    lottsagoats1 Well-Known Member

    Apr 12, 2014
    Middle Maine
    I have to copper bolus 2 times a year because of the mineral content in my water. Some of the minerals block the absorption of copper.

    Yup, that is the stuff, though I buy the calf boluses.
     
  6. canyontrailgoats

    canyontrailgoats New Member

    Jan 4, 2014
    western montana
    I believe you give about 4 grams to adult goats, and 2 for kids.
     
  7. agilitymaster01

    agilitymaster01 Rose Creek Acres

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    Sep 25, 2013
    La Crescent, MN
    That is the calf plus amt or The sheep and goat amount?
     
  8. toth boer goats

    toth boer goats Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Jul 20, 2008
    Corning California
    I believe the dosage is 1 gram of copper per 20 lbs of goat.

    But I like to wait for signs such as fishtail ect before I give it. Overdosing can do harm, so I play it safe. This is just me, LOL.

    I have the loose salt and minerals out.
     
  9. Suntoo

    Suntoo Member

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    Nov 13, 2013
    Southern Nevada
    It's 1 gram per 22 lbs. of goat.
    According to "Natural Goat Care" you practically cannot overdose.

    :book:

    Vets in my area are also useless when it comes to goats.
    :confused:
     
  10. agilitymaster01

    agilitymaster01 Rose Creek Acres

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    Sep 25, 2013
    La Crescent, MN
    Thanks for your help guys. Much appreciated. I've only done this a year and sometimes all the info and questions can be overwhelming. ;)
     
  11. Goats Rock

    Goats Rock Member

    Jun 20, 2011
    NE Ohio
    No matter how long you have goats, something will come along that has not been experienced before! Even experienced goat folks get overwhelmed sometimes, so don't feel bad!

    The great thing about this site is no matter how bad something seems, someone has good information on how to help the situation!
     
  12. agilitymaster01

    agilitymaster01 Rose Creek Acres

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    Sep 25, 2013
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    Last edited: Sep 16, 2014
  13. Suntoo

    Suntoo Member

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    Nov 13, 2013
    Southern Nevada
    Yes, but I bought them from the manufacturer for less than that. Both 2 gram and 4 gram capsules.
    http://www.scbt.com/datasheet-363825-ultracruz-goat-copper-bolus.html
    And they are very nice at Ultra Cruz!


    Between the 2 and 4 gram caps I weight taped my goats and dosed them as close to 1 gram/per 22 pounds as I could get.
    I tricked them with banana, strawberries....anything I could get them to gobble down before they realized there was a copper bolus stuffed inside!

    It's been about 3 months since and I'm going to dose them again in the next few weeks. They are looking fabulous....(I was afraid but really had no one but myself to turn to.)
    In all fairness...I started them on Apple Cider Vinegar, Cod Liver Oil, Aloe, (finally a seaweed meal), and Goat Minerals and prayed my goats would start to look like healthy show dogs.
    I don't give them everything everyday, and I estimate dosage according to their weight compared to a horse.
    There are so many opinions on diet that I decided to go with my gut...and pay the closest attention to those who live in the same kind of environment that I do (I'm in the desert.) I also thought I'd better pick a book on goat care (Natural Goat Care by Pat Coleby). I'll never be afraid of copper again.

    I know this is a long post....but the only person I knew more clueless than me was the idiot I got my goats from. He doesn't even have brains enough to come to a place like this forum.

    AND...
    The Goat Spot ROCKS!

    :love: :thumbup:
     
  14. gwith

    gwith Well-Known Member

    Aug 12, 2014
    Weatherford, Tx
    Is it safe to give a copper bolus to a pregnant doe?
     
  15. ksalvagno

    ksalvagno Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member