Give Credit Where Credit is Due - but ask first....

Discussion in 'The Chatter Box' started by Bona Fide, Apr 20, 2008.

  1. Bona Fide

    Bona Fide New Member

    401
    Oct 9, 2007
    Kentucky
    Hey everyone. Just a friendly reminder (I'm filling in from experience here...) please make sure if you use pictures, quoted information, website links or any general information/logos from someone's website that you don't just give credit to that person on your website, but you ask permission first.

    People can get offended (and it's understandable - these people many times have to pay for these pictures themselves) if they find their pictures on other websites and permission wasn't asked first. You also have to think - the animal in the picture looked like they did while they were at said farm - they can't vouch for how the animal looks/performs/does after it's been sold and moved.

    Again, not knocking anyone nor saying everyone gets upset - there are just some who do, (again understandable) and I've just been there and I can promise I'm not one to want to step on anyone's toes, get anyone upset or "steal" --- even if not intended - and I hate to have anyone else feel that way - because you feel bad. Especially when all it takes is a "can I use this photo on my website". Even if the animal is now yours, that photo isn't and in all honesty, sometimes those pictures you see on websites aren't even theirs - so they can't rightfully give permission....soooo....it's really not a big deal...just please ask first if you want to use photos, quotes or information on your website. :)
     
  2. Muddy Creek Farm

    Muddy Creek Farm New Member

    Oct 5, 2007
    Keokuk, Iowa
    Yes, most definatly ask permission. I don't like it when people use my photos without saying "courtesy of Muddy Creek Farm" or something like that. I personally do not mind if they ask me I just want the credit. As taking photos of those bratty little goats is hard work!!
     

  3. Bona Fide

    Bona Fide New Member

    401
    Oct 9, 2007
    Kentucky
    Yup. and as for me credit isn't always the biggest deal (however, MUCH appreciated) - I just want to be asked first. Especially b/c sometimes I've got private arrangements where credit isn't necessarily required on my website - but that doesn't give anyone else the rights to that photo...
    Again - just putting in my .02 b/c I've been there - done that - had the email. LOL
     
  4. Muddy Creek Farm

    Muddy Creek Farm New Member

    Oct 5, 2007
    Keokuk, Iowa
    See, that is exactly why you ask. People have different "wants" lol.
     
  5. StaceyRosado

    StaceyRosado Administrator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Oct 4, 2007
    NJ
    I asked for pictures of a goats parents, received pictures and then asked if I could put them on my website. She got upset and said no, but sent me different pictures that I could use (I thought they were better pictures actually :) ) but Unfortunatly I didn't save them and lost them so I ended up not even putting them up.
     
  6. heavenlyhaven

    heavenlyhaven Senior Member

    627
    Apr 16, 2008
    Belmont, NY
    you're right and it made me think
    so i looked over my website
    there no nais pics but they give you the code to use
    there is ron paul pics but i don't think they'll mind...?
    however
    eliya
    i need to apologize to you
    i used a pic of Beric without your permission
    or giving you credit :sigh:
    if you wish i will take it off
    i am sorry :worried:
    (credit now given)
     
  7. goathappy

    goathappy New Member

    Oct 5, 2007
    Illinois
    I use pictured pedigrees for my website and I always ask permission and give credit before I use pictures. I know I wouldn't want anybody using my pictures without my permission first!
     
  8. prairiewolf

    prairiewolf New Member

    97
    Oct 17, 2007
    southeast Kansas
    I so agree, it is annoying, and disrespectful. Asking makes all the difference. What is even worse is when you spend hours designing something like a graphic or logo for your site and go to great lengths to make sure it does not look anything like anyone else's you have seen out of respect for others and someone else takes 2 minutes to copy and paste it to their site, if you are lucky they may go to the effort to change something small so they can call it their own. That is annoying, not that they used it, but that they don't ask and call it their own design.
     
  9. heavenlyhaven

    heavenlyhaven Senior Member

    627
    Apr 16, 2008
    Belmont, NY
    Update:
    i gave credit where credit is due and i have asked and been granted permission from eliya
    and from amy :wink:
     
  10. Bona Fide

    Bona Fide New Member

    401
    Oct 9, 2007
    Kentucky
    There are lots of new members on here - and while browsing a few websites - I thought I would bump this up as a friendly reminder - it goes without saying we all know how much heartache, work, love and energy are put into our herds - and it reflects in each years kiddings and shows --- as well as on our websites, so please, remember to ask permission.

    Thanks yall! :)
     
  11. KW Farms

    KW Farms Moderator Supporting Member

    Jun 21, 2008
    Wapato, WA
    Oh gosh, good reminder for sure. I came across a website the other day with a picture of MY buck that I took, the people never asked, didn't give curtesy of...or anything. I dont' allow right clicking on my website so there is a harder chance of someone copying or saving, but when they take the pic, don't give me credit, then just put it on there website where everyone can use it. It makes me mad. So anywho, I confronted them and kindly told them about it and they took the pictures down immidately even though I said it was fine if they use it as long as they give credit. I was kind about it and said how they have a Copyright on there website and so do I so how would they like it if I just started using pictures from their website. I spend so much time on pictures and text, it's disapointing when people take that and don't ask first.

    By the way, the people must like to copy things, because I noticed something that I could have sworn I saw from someone's website and was right...they copied Capriola-nd's pricing list for does, bucks, and wethers. All they did was copy Capriola-nd's pricing list that she created. It made me upset...So Olivia...if you see this, I can pm their website so you can get ahold of them and get credit for it at least if ya want.
     
  12. kelebek

    kelebek New Member

    Oct 5, 2007
    South Texas
    Kylie - how do you disable right clicks on freewebs??

    I think you bring up a very nice point Bona Fide. I know that you weren't pointing fingers or anything - but it is a good reminder - :wink:
     
  13. Epona142

    Epona142 The farm that Hope began

    May 25, 2008
    Madisonville, TX
    Topics like this make me nervous! I had to double check to make sure I don't have anything that's not mine. But nope, all pictures were taken by yours truly, and my banner is made from free clip-art. I sure hope I didn't miss anything! :)
     
  14. Victoria

    Victoria New Member

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    Dec 20, 2008
    Vernonia, Oregon
    {{By the way, the people must like to copy things, because I noticed something that I could have sworn I saw from someone's website and was right...they copied Capriola-nd's pricing list for does, bucks, and wethers. All they did was copy Capriola-nd's pricing list that she created. It made me upset...So Olivia...if you see this, I can pm their website so you can get ahold of them and get credit for it at least if ya want.}} { quote}.

    Olivia did see it, and right on her web site it plainly says not to use her stuff!!

    I asked before posting pics of my goats that aren't mine. We all know how long it can take to get a decent looking picture, so yea, I totally agree, but I need to check and make sure credit is accounted for, I may have left a couple out ...
    Thanks for the good reminder!!
     
  15. KW Farms

    KW Farms Moderator Supporting Member

    Jun 21, 2008
    Wapato, WA
    Allison: On freewebs...I believe you go to the page you want, but don't go into the editting area yet. At the top of the page it says page options...go to that and somewhere in there is I think mouse options and then it will have a drop down arrow that says "disable right click". If you can't find it let me know and i'll go to freewebs and give ya better instructions.

    Vicoria, I sure am glad Olivia saw that, it even made me upset to see that. It had a lot of goat pic links on the website with no credit given and just a lot of copied text and stuff. Looks like they spent most the time on the website just copy and pasting.

    Everyone works so hard with their websites, taking pictures, and thinking up text and it's very disapointing when people don't respect that enough to ask and give credit.
     
  16. capriola-nd

    capriola-nd New Member

    Jul 6, 2008
    Northwest Oregon
    Yep, I saw it! It actually was pretty funny! I don't really care so, so much but it is on my website to not copy, so you'd think they'd respect that. :roll: But I'm not going to throw a fit about it. ;) Actually, after seeing it, I went to my website and changed a couple things. I wanted to anyways. . . . :)

    Now I am nervous and need to go and check my site!! I did copy a free logo for our soap page, but that's okay, right??

    Oh, and on the disable right-clicking thing. I think (not positive, but I think) that it only disables the home page. I put that on our website and it only works on the home page, so :shrug: - not sure if that works for all pages. I'm gonna go check w/ my site really quick.
     
  17. KW Farms

    KW Farms Moderator Supporting Member

    Jun 21, 2008
    Wapato, WA
    The disable right clicking works on all my pages...just checked. :wink: Olivia, it's fine to copy the free logo and those kind of things. I do think you have to be a member though to use logos like AGS or ADGA though.
     
  18. capriola-nd

    capriola-nd New Member

    Jul 6, 2008
    Northwest Oregon
    That's strange. It only blocks the home page. Maybe I need to play around with it, see if it will do all pages. . . .
     
  19. KW Farms

    KW Farms Moderator Supporting Member

    Jun 21, 2008
    Wapato, WA
    Yeah, ya know when you are on the "manage pages/or somethin like that" page, at the top of each individual page you have to press the disable right click. Anywho, hope you can get it all figured out. I know I feel a lot better having that on there.
     
  20. kelebek

    kelebek New Member

    Oct 5, 2007
    South Texas
    you have to go to every page individually and change it to not allow right clicks. I did mine today. It takes a few minutes but worth it!