Well, I missed Glitz kidding by an hour yesterday!! Looked in the pasture to find a HUGE buckling following his mommy around as she grazed the pasture. I got a wieght on him last night... 13 lbs!!!! My nubian babies average about 5-6 lbs! How in the world Glitz (FF) delivered him i don't know. She's being a good mommy though, and even though her udder is small it looks great, with perfect milkable teats. :leap: :stars: :boy: I'll get a pic up in a sec.