Goat trace minerals from premier 1

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Lboudreau

Discussion Starter · Dec 6, 2021

Hi everyone. Has anybody ever used this mineral? It seems very high. I ordered it along with ADE and feed salt. Im just scarred to give it to them. Im gonna post a pic below.

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MellonFriend

· #2 · Dec 6, 2021

I have not used it, but I know that it is a premix, so you need to mix it in with the appropriate amount of salt. It's basically a concentrate that you need to dilute it with plain livestock salt. Then the levels won't be so high. If you have any questions regarding it, Premier 1 has awesome customer service. I'm sure they would be glad to help you, if you don't get your answer here.🙂

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Lboudreau

Discussion Starter · #3 · Dec 6, 2021

Oh thank you. I wasn't sure i thought it was going to be the levels after mixed. I bought a 50lb bag of plain livestock salt along with vitamins ADE. I did read the reviews on it through premier which were all good. The direction is to put a weeks worth out for free choice. They only need .25ounce a day. Can I put it in their grain if I feed them separately?

MellonFriend

· #4 · Dec 6, 2021

Free choice is always better for minerals. Goats are very good at knowing how much they need, so it's better to give them that option, otherwise you might be giving it to an individual whose body does not need it. Make sense? If it were me, I'd just put a small amount every day and see how they like it. If they are gobbling it up put more out than you did before. The goal is to put out enough that they don't run out, but not too much that it clumps up from sitting out too long. Goats don't like clumpy minerals. 😉

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Lboudreau

Discussion Starter · #5 · Dec 6, 2021

I do that know I have blue seal minerals out free choice. The girls chow it, the boys not quite. I have well water that is high in iron, calcium, sulfur, arsenic, and fluoride. They are showing signs of deficiency. Black ones are balding around eyes and tan ones have the start of fishtail. I copper bolused 10 week ago. I dont really see much improvement and I have recently been giving replamin gel, which seems to be working great. But I ordered a reverse osmosis for my goats, which Is being delivered tomorrow!!! I can't wait. My poor babies...

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Lboudreau

Discussion Starter · #6 · Dec 6, 2021

But thanks for your advice Mellonfriend. Im going to give them clean water after tomorrow and possibly change minerals after and I will free choice those. This goat forum is great. I feel I need a little guidance every once in awhile!

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toth boer goats

· #7 · Dec 6, 2021

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MellonFriend

· #8 · Dec 6, 2021

Glad to have helped. It sounds like you are well on your way to healthy goats! 🙂 Let us know how your goats end up doing on your new mineral plan!

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Lboudreau

Discussion Starter · #9 · Dec 6, 2021

I will, Im very curious myself. Thanks!

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Lboudreau

Discussion Starter · #10 · Dec 21, 2021

I called the vet it just keeps getting worse. Is this copper def? to me it definitely looks like it. His nose just turn brown with in 3 days. I gave him that trace minerals from premiere and he didn't touch it, unless I had a container of it and held it infront of him.(which is really high in copper) So I gave them back their blueseal minerals.. I gave him a couple doses of replamin gel through out the week and the next day he looks even worse. Plus I copper bolused him 11 weeks ago. Am I giving to much copper afraid he is deficient or is this copper toxicity and im poisoning him?

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Lboudreau

Discussion Starter · #11 · Dec 21, 2021

I was under the impression that I had hard water and high in iron. Which after some of my own research I actually don't think its to bad, besides the arsenic and fluoride. I figured this out after I bought a carbon filter, water softener and reverse osmosis. Im just waiting for my husband to eventually hook it all up. Can somebody please help me on this im going to put a pic of my water results and can you tell me if this is not good for the goats.

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NigerianNewbie

· #12 · Dec 21, 2021

Could you post a picture of him standing sideways so his neck and tail would be visible? Would be looking for a burnt hair tip appearance on the upper neck and a fish tail with a picture from that angle. He looks fairly young, and it is not uncommon for a goat to experience some form of color changes as they age and/or when they grow and shed their seasonal coats.

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NigerianNewbie

· #13 · Dec 21, 2021

Lboudreau said:
Can somebody please help me on this im going to put a pic of my water results and can you tell me if this is not good for the goats.

In my opinion, high levels of arsenic in the water would not be healthy for any living creature to drink on a long-term basis. Are you living in an area that is or was predominately agriculture?

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MellonFriend

· #14 · Dec 21, 2021

I agree, a picture from the side would be helpful. If it were me after doing all these things, I would back off on the supplementation. It won't hurt him to get more deficient if it is indeed that. Do you have any other goats that look like they are having coat changes?

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Lboudreau

Discussion Starter · #15 · Dec 21, 2021

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Im sorry I dont have a recent pic of him standing sideways or a whole body. It doesn't look like he has fishtail. Just balding on his face and like rolls. His half sister is balding around her eyes not as bad but seems to be getting worse. This pic is taken today.

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Lboudreau

Discussion Starter · #16 · Dec 21, 2021

Yeah I know the arsenic is bad. The only thing that gets rid of arsenic is a reverse osmosis. Which barely produces much water and then wait 2-3 to get more. And yes we live in a area that was predominantly agricultural.

Lboudreau

Discussion Starter · #17 · Dec 21, 2021

I have 6 nigerian dwarfs. Odin and Penelope(half siblings) are the only ones that are balding around the eyes. Their in separate pens. The others have nice full coat and I've been looking at tails and 2 of them are like fanned out but not missing hair at the tip.

Lboudreau

Discussion Starter · #18 · Dec 21, 2021

7

Ok I went outside.

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ksalvagno

· #19 · Dec 21, 2021

Those aren't fishtail tails.

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Lboudreau

Discussion Starter · #20 · Dec 21, 2021

I didn't think so. Thank you for confirming! So why is he balding and turning brown on bridge of his nose. Other than the arsenic is my water bad? Calcium and iron?

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