Okay, so I know some people have strong opinions on this topic, and I don't want to start a debate on whether or not to disbud kids... We are planning to show, so our NDs will have to be disbudded. I looked into having it done by a vet and that whole idea was a bust. There are only 2 large animal vets in my area...one wanted $25 per kid to do it and it did not inspire confidence when she said it had been quite some time since they had done one and they'd have to "dig around' to see if they could find their iron and see if it still worked okay (yeah, and I'm supposed to pay YOU to do it when you aren't sure if you remember how or if your equipment is even in working order?). The second vet wanted $37 to do it...she said that price included the CD&T shot. Now, that threw me for a loop because I do vaccinate with the CD&T (30 days before kidding, 3 wks after, then 6wks after, then every 6 months), but everything I read said you are supposed to give them Tetanus ANTITOXIN before disbudding because it is the fast acting kind that lasts like 10 to 14 days so it's the one that is recommended anytime you do stuff like disbud or band bucklings. Makes me nervous when it sounds like she does not even really know the right meds to give. She also wanted to give some sort of sedation for the disbudding, and she is the vet that I called before who told me that the ONLY acceptable way to neuter bucklings was to wait 6 months and then have the testicles surgically removed while under general anesthesia. She swore that bucks that are banded only live a year or two due to lack of testosterone at an early age making the urethra too narrow. This pretty much goes against everything I've heard from EVERY breeder I've talked to on the subject and most of what I have read online so I don't really have a lot of confidence in her abilities or judgement as a goat vet. I mean, I know they can have issues and that is why we don't feed a lot of grain, but I don't think they just automatically drop dead after a year or so either. So, I decided I might as well learn how to do this myself if I planned on breeding and showing. I currently only have 1 kid of an age to be disbudded, and she is not one of my show girls, but I figured since they share a pasture I would rather not have some of my goats armed with horns while the others weren't, not to mention it is comforting to know that if I ever sell her she has a better chance at finding a good home since horned goats are difficult to sell as pets and usually end up as BBQ around here...plus, and I know this is an awful thought, I thought I'd rather do the first disbudding on one of the unregistered goats. That way if it does not come out perfectly I won't freak out because I've ruined one for showing. So, I have read and re-read everything I can find on HOW to do it, and I bought the Rhinehart X30 iron since that was the one I saw recommended the most...now I just have to do the deed. Not, not, not looking forward to it. I just have to keep reminding myself that, according to all of the websites and the lady at Pecan Hollow (I bought goats from her so now I call to pick her brain for info anytime I can get away with it) the experience is not that traumatic for them and they go right back to nursing and playing within minutes. So, wish me (and the doeling) luck...I guess or send supportive thoughts this way...hopefully I will be strong enough to do it quickly and cleanly with as little pain as possible for the little one. Oh, and hopefully I don't faint afterwards.