Look for does that aren't overweight, stand on strong feet, with strong pasterns, does that are bigger bodied, and have nice wide hips. Ask about kidding, have they had problems with kidding? If so what kind of problems? If the does have udders, make sure that they have nice udders that are held high and that don't hang down and swing.
Downen P115 seems to be a really nice buck, both his parents are Ennobled and are also both ABGA National Champions. He's got alot of other Ennobled stuff in his pedigree as well. Capriole's Piping Hot Abby seems to be a decent doe as well. So just curious, is the place you are getting them from called Simon Boers? Cuz that's the farm that owns Abby and they said she had kids sired by Downen P115. I'm attaching a picture of Downen P115.
I was gonna type you a reply earlier yesterday and then my puter got locked up. For a goat to be Ennobled, they have to pass an inspection by a qualified person to show that they are a good represenative of the breed standard. Also they have to have a certain amount of show points either from the goat itself being shown or from it's progeny doing well in the show ring. There are times that a goat is Ennobled and has never been shown, but it has produced kids that are winning in the show ring and have "collected enough points for the goat to become Ennobled. Make sense? So it's kind of like a champion basically. I'll look up those lines here after a while when a get some time.
You are welcome. Okay, looking up those goats for you, I found Hobenero, if it's the same one you are talking about he looks like an amazing buck. He's owned by Tehachapi Boers and you can read about him here. http://www.tehachapiboers.com/TehachapiBoers.html and from what I can gather on those other ones, it seems like they are really good as well, at least everybody is proud to say they are in their lines.