Just to clarify things, I keep my goats in a large pen, that's been eaten down to bare dirt by them and the chickens. They get their feed and hay twice a day. We live on a large bit of land, mostly wooded, but we have some pasture, just nothing more than OLD barbed wire fences somewhere back in the woods. I used to take Hope and Uno out on lines and sit while they got to graze, but since my herd grew to four, I both haven't had time much to set it all up and not enough line for four goats. But today, I took a chance and just let them out while I worked on scrubbing their feed tubs and water buckets. I left a leash on Hope, thinking she would be fairly easy to catch. They did so great!! They grazed in the pasture, but stayed together and close to the house, even coming up to check out the porch. And they were so happy, running and playing a bit, and I was able to catch them without any trouble and herd them back into the pen, where they commenced playing "tag" with me. I think I need one of those sticks shepherds carry now. I just had to share.