Look at this little guy Candace just offered me! He's absolutely GORGEOUS! And I think I'm going to go ahead and get him! (I know a little early to be getting a buck but I think I'll be offering him for stud and everything)
He looks like (correct me if I'm wrong) he has good angulation in his legs, down hill and level, level rump, good dairy character (maybe???) and great coloration! Anything I'm missing? Or am I completely wrong?
LOL. I was so excited when Candace told me about him! I've been looking for a nice spotted nubian buckling for next year, and then one of her does just had this guy 36 hours ago and she told me about him and showed me two pics and I was SOLD.
For me...it's hard to tell. He is stretching in that pic and any goat will look nice across the topline when stretching. I looked at both of his parents and both have short, steep rumps. That is where your girls are weak...you won't be improving your girls then if you get a buck with the same problems. His dam seemed a bit narrow and I didn't like the topline of either of his parents. He also seems a bit crooked in the front legs.
I am not trying to burst your bubble or anything, but I would not get him. I want you get the best buck possible to improve your does. If you want to show, my opinion is don't get him...if you don't care about showing and just want color...go for it.
I agree with dover farms, though he is very young and could potentially improve in body capacity he is very narrow and shallow through the barrel even for a two day old kid. if you look at his rib cage he gets more shallow as you follow it back, he is deeper in his heart girth then he is in the rear part of his barrel. He should be getting deeper as you fallow his barrel back. Something about his feet and legs just doesn't look right. his front legs look like the bow out some and then come back in at the feet. he looks like he toes in pretty bad in the front.
His parents both have steep rumps. His dam is very shallow through the barrel as well. im assuming she is a yearling in that picture. She seems really narrow and pinched looking all the way down her body.
He does apear to have a nice set of shoulders and be very uphill. His rump looks nice now but if you look at the angle of his rear legs he looks as if he is going to be posty, bot a lot of angulation there which usually comes with a steep rump, there isnlt much length from his hips to his pins.
The ultimate choice is up to you but if your looking to show kids out of your does i wouldn;t get him. I don;t think he is going to make the improvements you want in your herd. Though he is a pretty color and has spots spots don;t win in the show ring. I would rather havea plain looking buck that has better confirmation then a not so good buck with color.
Like Dover said i don;t want to burst your bubble as you seem really excited about him but if your looking for show i don;t think i would get him. Do you have any pictures of his dam with an udder?
Well Heidi isn't registered and I'll probably end up keeping her unregistered. (could NOA her if I wanted but I don't think I will) And Lyric will only be registered if we can find the dams papers or maybe as just 50%. And then the registered doe I'm getting has everything he doesn't like a nice flat rump and everything so I think I might still get him. Even if only to use on the unregistered girls. We'll see. Thanks for the advice and everything! :greengrin:
Do you have any pics of his dam's udder? That is another thing I would look at. I've read...."Your buck's dam should be nicer than the doe your are breeding him to"...something on that line anyways. I hope whatever you decide to do...it improves your herd.
It's Dill's Epsilon Lyrae. Course now that I really look a little closer at her her rump's a little steeper than I originally thought. Hhmmm, I might also just kid a kid out of a breeding, I haven't really completely decided yet. :roll: