Grown up Bottle Babies are not ALWAYS the greatest

Discussion in 'Meat Market' started by nancy d, Feb 20, 2009.

  1. nancy d

    nancy d Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Oct 5, 2007
    near Seattle
    Lela & Balango are cousins & bottle babies. Tho they are both pretty friendly but dont let it fool you.
    Lela is a BOOGER at vac time, jumping around & breaking leads.
    Balango has shown slight aggression towards Lela's new baby.Lela & Balango have always been tight buds.
    Thats the last straw. Balango is going for meat. This is the seconnd year she hasnt settled either. :angry:
     
  2. StaceyRosado

    StaceyRosado Administrator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Oct 4, 2007
    NJ
    I know how frustrating bottle babies can be. Jitterbug is just a nusence. She is very aggressive towards other goats too. But then I have Lola who is sweet and nice, also a bottle baby.

    But I have had my share of bottle babies and they are by far the most obnoxious goats.
     

  3. Victoria

    Victoria New Member

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    Dec 20, 2008
    Vernonia, Oregon
    I totally agree!! I sway away from selling, having, even dealing with the little screamers!! I have had several bad bad experiences with bottle babies, no way no how no can do any more!! Unless ofcorse I am forced against my will by a rejecting dam wich has only happened to me once...Yea, they are so cute, but they grow up as little buggers!!There's my two bits!! :greengrin:
     
  4. toth boer goats

    toth boer goats Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Jul 20, 2008
    Corning California
    I've had a couple of bottle babies before in the past.... they can be a pain.....

    Is the doe over weight ....the one that can't get preggo?
    Does she shows signs of coming in?
     
  5. heavenlyhaven

    heavenlyhaven Senior Member

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    Apr 16, 2008
    Belmont, NY
    you guys are scaring me
    hope is now almost 3 months old and still living in the house as it is too cold to put her outside
    she goes out with me every day to do chores and she is actually afraid of the twins that were born 1/23
     
  6. nancy d

    nancy d Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Oct 5, 2007
    near Seattle
    Dont be alarmed HH, these are Boers. Whenever I've had Nubie bottle babies they were just obnoxiously friendly.
    Victoria, I dont normally bottle feed either.
    Pam she IS overweight. She also has a short dippy back that I dont want to carry on.
    Some friends came over who are more knowledgle that I. They didnt think she was masculine looking but Ive heard this tank blubber like a buck and stomp a front leg.
    She also ran for her life when the buck was here. I have heard of the possiblility of cysts but Im not spending a dime on her unless its kill cut & wrap!
     
  7. sweetgoats

    sweetgoats Moderator

    Oct 18, 2007
    Peyton CO.
    Hope was my bottle baby. When she was younger (4 now) she was so hard to deal with. When we went out to the barn she was right under out feet and we could not walk without tripping over her. I love her to death but some days I would love to strangle her.
    But she is my Hope Dopie
     
  8. toth boer goats

    toth boer goats Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Jul 20, 2008
    Corning California
    heavenlyhaven...I once had a doeling that her momma had broke her hip ...we had to keep her penned up in a smaller pen.. to keep her from moving around to much.... she had a baby doeling on her for 3 months....with no socialization skills with other goats...when we put her out ..at weaning time...with the rest of the herd ...she was really scared....she didn't know what to do..how to act.....it was almost sad in a way.. :( ..she didn't know how ...to respond to the other goats that approached her...she of course was new to everyone ...when they came up to her ....and reared up ....she would rear up back ...then she would turn around and run ...when they came towards her...that was a little funny to watch.... :) it took a long time.. to figure out ...what a goat is suppose to do.....socializing is very important...if you have a gentle goat that she can socialize with.... it will help her overcome some of her fears... :hug: :)
     
  9. toth boer goats

    toth boer goats Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Jul 20, 2008
    Corning California
    nancy d ...If she is over weight... it may be one reason she won't take....but if you don't want her in her herd ..... has a bad dip in her back and you are completely unhappy with her...she may not do your herd any good.....do what's in your heart.... :hug: :)
     
  10. RunAround

    RunAround New Member

    Feb 17, 2008
    Massachusetts
    Ick, yeah I wont buy or having anything to do with bottle babies unless I have to.
     
  11. heavenlyhaven

    heavenlyhaven Senior Member

    627
    Apr 16, 2008
    Belmont, NY
    oh for the last few weeks or so Hope goes out with me twice a day when i do chores
    she even goes into the pasture with me but wont leave my side
    she is terrified of the babies that were born 1/23 which i think is hilarious
    today i took Pig on a packing trip and actually left Hope out in the pasture
    we were only gone about 2 hours and she was fine
    she was waiting by the gate for me but she didn't seem stressed or beaten up and she didnt even yell for me when she saw me coming from the house
    when i opened the gate to put Pig back she bolted and didn't stop til she was up on the porch waiting by the back door
    LOL
    but she was fine
     
  12. redneck_acres

    redneck_acres New Member

    Oct 17, 2007
    Idaho
    Not all bottle babies are obnoxious. All of our yearlings + are pretty tame. I think it has to do more with them being a "Kid" rather than being obnoxious. I think there are downfalls to both bottle raising and dam raising-you just have to do what you think is best for your situation.
     
  13. kelebek

    kelebek New Member

    Oct 5, 2007
    South Texas
    I absolutely hate bottle babies and want nothing to do with them if I can help it.

    I personally will not buy an animal if it is a bottle baby. I have had nothing but trouble with them.
     
  14. heavenlyhaven

    heavenlyhaven Senior Member

    627
    Apr 16, 2008
    Belmont, NY
    i have had bottle babies before but they were raised outside with the other goats
    Pig, my pack wether, was a bottle baby and my only real complaint with him is that he is so much bigger than my mini nubs (alpine xross of some sort) that he bows my fence
    and Arthur, this years herd sire that i got from eliya, was a bottle baby too and i've not had a prob with him
    but Hope is the first to be raised in the house and i am worried about what will happen when i put her out to pasture permanently
     
  15. rgbdab

    rgbdab New Member

    252
    Nov 26, 2007
    TEXAS
    I have 2 5yr old "bottle babies" and it's so true. They love me with all their hearts and won't leave us alone if we are out there trying to work on something. They spill our drinks and eat our cigarettes, always have to be in the middle of whatever we are doing. Impossible to go fishing without them being into everything, and the other 20+ goats are just doing their thing.
    Now I have 2 more bottle babies that are a couple of months old and they scream anytime the see me! A friend of mine that is in a wheelchair came over to visit and see all the baby goats and the 2 bottle babies wouldn't leave her wheelchair alone, getting in her backpack etc. None of the others bothered with it at all. Yes they are pests, but smart, sweet pests to me.
    Denise
     
  16. toth boer goats

    toth boer goats Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Jul 20, 2008
    Corning California
    It is interesting to see how everyone feels about bottle babies....some love them.... some don't....
    we all...... do agree ...on one thing though..... they are pests.... :wink: :greengrin:
     
  17. redneck_acres

    redneck_acres New Member

    Oct 17, 2007
    Idaho
    They are not always pests-at least that is my opinion. I've seen some wild dam raised kids-so I think there are wild goats on both sides of the deal. Before they are weaned they may be a bit difficult when you get in their pen for feeding time-but once their bellies are full they are normally pretty good.
     
  18. keren

    keren owned by goats

    Oct 26, 2008
    Australia
    You know, I have bottle babies that behave just like the rest of the herd, and bottle babies that are all over me like a rash.

    It all has to do with socialisation and discipline when they are kids. If you want a bottle baby to act like the rest of the herd, leave it with the other goats and bring the bottle out to it. Make it live with other goats and let it know you are not mummy. Better yet, use a lamb bar so they do not associate you with sucking.

    Some of mine I raise to be independant, some I have raised to be my babies :love: I can honestly say the babied ones are a PITA while I sometimes forget the others are poddies
     
  19. toth boer goats

    toth boer goats Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Jul 20, 2008
    Corning California
    that is a very good advice you have there...it makes since.... :wink:

    what is PITA and poddies mean?
     
  20. badnewsboers

    badnewsboers New Member

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    May 9, 2008
    Newport, NC
    I'm assuming she means Pain in the a**. I used to joke I was going to name one of my does PITA because she was a pain to catch.

    And I believe poddies are bottle babies..?