Heat? Or bred?

Discussion in 'Goat Frenzy' started by Boers4ever, Oct 19, 2020.

  1. Boers4ever

    Boers4ever Well-Known Member

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    Jun 28, 2020
    East Texas
    My 3yr old ND mix doe was supposedly bred by my Boer buck. I did not see it happen but I did see him chasing her around. That was in July. Her due date was November 23.
    Well I fed them this morning, nothing suspicious going on, everything is normal. Now a few minutes ago I hear her in the pasture screaming! I run outside and all the other girls are in the back of the pen browsing, she is pacing the front fence looking towards the buck pen just going insane! Well of coarse all the other girls fly up here to see me. One of the girls starts jumping on her and acting very “Bucky” towards her. Her hind end is all red and irritated looking and she’s wagging her tail a lot.
    So my question is: is she pregnant or have I been thinking that she’s pregnant for 4 months?
    No blood test is available.
     
  2. ALBoerGoats

    ALBoerGoats Well-Known Member

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    Dec 26, 2015
    Sounds like she is in heat.
     
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  3. toth boer goats

    toth boer goats Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Jul 20, 2008
    Corning California
    Sounds like heat to me too.

    Any blood discharge seen?
     
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  4. Boers4ever

    Boers4ever Well-Known Member

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    Jun 28, 2020
    East Texas
    Nope no bloody discharge. I had a goat abort last year and it wasn’t a pretty sight. So I’m guessing that she just was never bred.
     
  5. CountyLineAcres

    CountyLineAcres Well-Known Member

    Jan 22, 2014
    Mineral Ridge, Ohio
    She is most likely in heat.

    It’s possible she did get bred but aborted very early into the pregnancy. It could’ve easily gone undetected.
     
  6. HoosierShadow

    HoosierShadow Senior Member

    Apr 19, 2010
    Central Kentucky
    I agree, sounds like heat. I would have put her on a lead and taken her closer to the buck, if she is flagging him and loving his icky buckiness then I would have put her in with him.

    We had 3 does come in heat last Thursday, one of which we assumed as bred for end of Dec, so I totally understand your frustration. I had a feeling she wasn't bred, but frustrated with my husband because I wanted to blood test the girls at 35 days post breeding. The other girls that should be bred look the part, but we'll be testing them Wed to make sure!
     
  7. CountyLineAcres

    CountyLineAcres Well-Known Member

    Jan 22, 2014
    Mineral Ridge, Ohio
    I don’t know what it is about this year! I’ve heard this issue with so many breeders and friends. We’ve never had a problem getting does kidding in January, but I swear most all our does put in with our buck in August didn’t get bred until October. So now our barn is going to be packed in rainy March lol. It’s so frustrating.
     
  8. AndersonRanch

    AndersonRanch Well-Known Member

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    Oct 17, 2020
    California
    It’s a odd year for sure! Mine never really cycle until their kids are weaned, unless I have fall kids. This year they started up in February/ March and just kept coming into heat. So I tossed the bucks in July and assumed they all got bred since I didn’t see any more Heats after August so took the bucks out the first of October and I already have 1 in heat. But the good thing is I seem more that are defiantly showing signs of kids soon then not. I just need to figure out who for sure isn’t and I guess have 2 kidding seasons this year :/
     
  9. Boers4ever

    Boers4ever Well-Known Member

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    Jun 28, 2020
    East Texas
    Thank for the input everyone! It looks like she is not bred. Sadly. I’m not going to be putting her with the buck till her next heat cycle because that’s when I’ll breed the rest of them anyway. I usually separate her from the others during that time but I guess she’ll just have to stay with them. Ugh.
     
  10. goatblessings

    goatblessings Fair-Haven Supporting Member

    Jan 5, 2015
    Southwest Ohio
    I'm having a hard time as well..... heat detection is difficult this year. I'm watching lady parts more than I want to.....
     
  11. Moers kiko boars

    Moers kiko boars Well-Known Member

    Apr 22, 2018
    Oklahoma
    Oh all my goatee friends... I understand. Some of mine look prego
    .the others...no. but my 6 month old buck:devil: was sure happy for 2 months. He bounced all over the place. I'm just going To go with it. Get my goat porn fix(embarrassed)..and watch udders. That's all I can do..its 23 against 1. So the does win:imok:. They bag up. They.deliver. they dont..theres next year! Lol lo :nod:
     
  12. lottsagoats1

    lottsagoats1 Well-Known Member

    Apr 12, 2014
    Middle Maine
    How small is she if she is a ND mix?
     
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  13. Boers4ever

    Boers4ever Well-Known Member

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    Jun 28, 2020
    East Texas
    She is about 95# not quite 100. Her name is Poppy. Here’s a pic before breeding: IMG_4147.jpg
    Here’s a belly pic about two months after breeding:
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    She is about the same size now as she was in the second pic.
     
  14. HoosierShadow

    HoosierShadow Senior Member

    Apr 19, 2010
    Central Kentucky
    Yes definitely frustrating!! I just dropped off blood tests this morning at the livestock lab about 20 minutes away to make sure that 4 are bred for end of Dec. They definitely look bred, if not, then they'd need a serious diet.

    This is the one my husband thought was pregnant and she was in heat a week ago. She looks pregnant that's for sure, but something told me she wasn't.
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    I won't complain as long as the other 4 are hopefully bred, because then our herd would be divided 4 for end of the year kids, and 4 for March possibly April kids since we aren't sure the doe above got bred this time. I agree about March = rainy/yucky/muddy, but honestly that's how it ends up being here in January, we've had some mild winters.
     

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  15. Boers4ever

    Boers4ever Well-Known Member

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    Jun 28, 2020
    East Texas
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    Ok I was able to get a picture of her this morning while feeding. She has gotten so much bigger! She is completely worm free and nothing has changed in diet.
     
  16. toth boer goats

    toth boer goats Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Jul 20, 2008
    Corning California
  17. HoosierShadow

    HoosierShadow Senior Member

    Apr 19, 2010
    Central Kentucky
    You can keep an eye on her, or you can pull blood and have a test done that away you don't put her in with the buck if she is indeed bred and him hurt her pregnancy.

    We assumed our girls were bred but after the one I mentioned above came back in heat last week it made me a bit paranoid. They eat a lot of hay, and have been getting feed, so I wanted to ensure they weren't just getting chunky.
    Dropped samples off at 8am, and had an email right after lunch that they are all pregnant!
    I love having a lab 20 minutes away to do these tests, but there are definitely labs you can mail them out to that are inexpensive and also very accurate.

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  18. Moers kiko boars

    Moers kiko boars Well-Known Member

    Apr 22, 2018
    Oklahoma
    Yay! :up::neat:..got kidds comeing!!!Yay!!!
     
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  19. Boers4ever

    Boers4ever Well-Known Member

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    Jun 28, 2020
    East Texas
    Wow that’s interesting! What’s a good lab that I could mail to?
     
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