[nchen7]

So my doe in milk hasn't been feeling well lately. She has been picking at her food, and today flat our refused to eat. This morning I gave her some kefir, and homemade electrolytes, then went off to work. I came home, armed with some antiacids, but she won't eat them. after bringing the other goats back, I noticed she had recently thrown up some cud, and has some cud smeared on the walls of her pen.

Her temp this morning was 101, and now it's 102.1. She got up, and looks fairly alert.

All I have on hand are ivomec, B12, red cell, activated charcoal, and other items that can be found in the kitchen. the local vet is, imo, not very good.

what else can I do?

 

[nchen7]

tried checking down her throat, and she wasn't too keen on it..... I just saw into her mouth, and didn't see anything.....

I ground up some activated charcoal and tried drenching about 1 tbsp. with water and vit c tab (the fizzy ones). I'm letting her rest a little bit.

I saw her pee, and it was normal colour. there's a poop in her pen, and it also looks fairly normal, SLIGHT clumping, but nothing major.....

for some reason i'm thinking it has something to do with rumen? maybe she ate something poisonous recently? sigh....what else can I do to help? more kefir?

 

[nchen7]

not foaming. I found pieces of cud on the hay.

I will give her more kefir and more charcoal. how much charcoal should I be giving her? doesn't hurt to give more vit c, would it?

no antitoxin (went to the feed store, and they didn't even have syringes with needles, or injecting iron, or minerals......)

she's a very picky eater, and eats slowly. but recently, she's been eating about half her grain and picking through it. she's not eating the BOSS....maybe b/c it's mouldy?

 

[nchen7]

ok, got more kefir and more charcoal down her throat (about 1/2 cup kefir, 1/2 cup water, and 1+ tbsp. of charcoal)

gonna give her a bit of a break for now, and hit her up again in an hour or so with more.

I should milk her out too, right?

btw - she thoroughly hates me now.....

 

[nchen7]

Thanks Axykatt!!! I hope Peggy Sue gets better too!!! :hug:

ok, about to do another dosage of kefir/charcoal/water/vit C mixture, and milk her out, then a rub on her left side.

 

[nchen7]

I just finished that dosage and milked and massaged. she let out a nice long pee

so for next dosage before I go to bed:
- I currently have about 1/4 cup of powdered charcoal, which would make tonight's total up to almost 3/4 cup of powdered charcoal
- 5 antiacids
- 1/2 cup of oil - I have rice bran, coconut, or olive. which would be best?

and more massaging, and trying to tell her this is for her own good while she tries to run away from me...... lol
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[nchen7]

when I was milking, she looked like she was chewing cud. I heard chewing, sounded a littler harsher than usual (think she's just been eating hay), I watched her and there was swallowing, then something came back up, more chewing. I heard SOME movement, but not much. she won't drink the electrolyte water I left out for her all day, now I have regular water.

currently don't have MOM, and the stores are now closed...... will look tmr if she doesn't change.

good thing is she's still fighting me hard, AND she looks really alert.

 

[nchen7]

so, went out to give her the last dosage for the day. I think she cringed when she saw me. she wasn't happy about it, but she swallowed most of that tar-like liquid.

after I finished and looked like I work at the tar sands, I gave her a massage. she burped a few times (thank goodness!). then I brought her some hay and she started munching.

i'm sending out good vibes for her to feel like her meanie self tomorrow, and eat like a champion!

 

[nchen7]

ok, so this morning, she wasn't any better or worse.....

I gave her more tums and vit c pill with more charcoal. I also gave 3 cc's of ivomec orally (she's about 85lbs or so), and 4cc's of B12 SQ. have her belly a really nice rub, left her with some goodies (veggie scraps, raisins and banana....all of which she didn't eat when I was there). took her temp, and she's at 101.3.

after dealing with the other goats, I came back and she had passed that oil slurry I gave her last night (it was disgusting). cleaned that up, said a little prayer and left to go to work.

today, i'll be looking for some human vit B (should I get complex or thiamine?) and MOM. what else should I look for at the store?

apparently b/c it's getting to be the Christmas season, the port is holding shipments in for longer than usual, which is likely why there's nothing at the feed store. sigh.....

 

[nchen7]

oh, I haven't noticed anymore coughing....

 

[nchen7]

thanks Laura. sucks having a sick animal. at least people can talk!

 

[nchen7]

How are you giving the kefir ? I never heard of giving that .

yes, i gave kefir yesterday, not today since i gave wormer. i'll give kefir later today.

it's just a yogurt type thing...but easier to do as long as your have the kefir grains. to me, it's a little strong to have by itself, but great in smoothies. it has more of the good bacteria in it. i dunno, it was the only probiotic thingy i have i home, so she got some...

 

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thanks Cathy. I was JUST about to ask you dosage of MOM. I found some in the store.

I wasn't sure if it's worms or toxins, or maybe both, so I gave her ivomec this morning. sigh. I have MOM on hand now, and 120 B100 pills. I read from goathiker that I need to give her 12 pills.

i'm supposed to get an update from the bf, but I haven't heard from him yet.....

 

[nchen7]

that's the plan!

 

[nchen7]

So I think she's a LITTLE better. I gave her MOM last night and MOM this morning. Also some more antacids, vit C, kefir. She was nibbling on hay (ate more than before). Then I remembered goathiker saying beer starts rumen function (I think her rumen stopped working). So got a double stout, and gave her half the bottle. She started eating more!!

So this evening, I'm not sure what to give. Should I give her more MOM, beer, vit 9, antacids, kefir, any combination?

She doesn't want to drink either, so I'm drenching when I give her stuff. But now she's a bit stronger and can buck me off!

What to do????

 

[nchen7]

Thanks! I'll give her some more beer and the kefir/vit c/antacids. Wouldn't hurt, right?

And....try to get more liquids in her.....

 

[nchen7]

Did all of the above. Sigh. Hate having a sick animal...

 

[nchen7]

thank you all!

she hasn't given up yet, so nor will I. I gave her MOM again just now.

all she has in her pen is hay (doesn't smell moldy), and some of her favourite greens to help entice her to eat. I haven't given any grains at all for a few days now.

I just can't understand why she's not drinking tho. I've made a few types of electrolytes, and she doesn't want to be a part of any of them! sigh......

she's bright eyed and bucking me off her, which i'll take as a good sign.

 

[nchen7]

she's chewing cud this morning!

ok, now what do I do? still give her MOM or stop that and give her the rest of the other items and see if she eats? or give her one more dose of MOM along with everything else???

 

[nchen7]

well, I gave her a MOM this morning, then she didn't want to eat again. haven't checked her yet. I have tried various types of water (plain, ACV, molasses), and nothing yet. i'll try in a bit...I put her out with the other goats today, give a little break from her pen and she wan kind of happy being outside in the fresh air.

will keep you updated!