[caprinelivin]

I have a weathered goat that is approx 4 months. He is nibbling hay, I have held back grain. Put my thumb in his mouth which seems a little cool to me. he has a wide stance In back legs and what seems to be a large hand size abscess on his scrotum area. I do not think it is calculi but he is not able to pee, barely a trickle. No teeth grinding, is standing and will move away from other goats-he is now separated. We are in the lowcountry of SC and there is literally only one vet, a mobile vet, that is tied up what may be all day. I am looking for advice.

 

[toth boer goats]

Get him to a vet right away.

 

[ksalvagno]

Definitely needs a vet ASAP.

 

[NigerianDwarfOwner707]

Treat as if it is urinary calculi.

 

[NigerianDwarfOwner707]

Just to make sure there’s no stone. Then get a vet ASAP. Try a horse vet if you can’t get a goat one.

 

[Moers kiko boars]

PLEASE contact a Vet! If no vet..contact a.University with a vet school.

 

[toth boer goats]

How are things?

 

[caprinelivin]

There are only two vets that treat goats in my area within a three hour drive!!! They are mobile vets and neither could come
However, I did speak to one and sent pics. He thinks he has tetanus I have only had this little fella three weeks. They breeder says he used CD&T vax but not tetanus when he banded him. The vet told me to give him PennG 3 times a day and see if he responds but told me if it was tetanus it was fatal He is still with is 24 hours later but has quit eating and has started teeth grinding

 

[NigerianDwarfOwner707]

I’m sorry, tetanus? Does the goat have stiff legs, lockjaw? Neurological symptoms?

Can’t grind teeth with lockjaw.

P.S. antibiotics are not what you need to treat tetanus. There is a tetanus antitoxin which is lifesaving.

P.S. if he was given the CD&T vaccine and booster over 2-3 weeks ago, he IS covered for tetanus.

The antibiotics don’t hurt with an abscess.

Would you mind sharing photos?

 

[caprinelivin]

I'm sorry, tetanus? Does the goat have stiff legs, lockjaw? Neurological symptoms?

Can't grind teeth with lockjaw.

P.S. antibiotics are not what you need to treat tetanus. There is a tetanus antitoxin which is lifesaving.

P.S. if he was given the CD&T vaccine and booster over 2-3 weeks ago, he IS covered for tetanus.

The antibiotics don't hurt with an abscess.

The vet obviously did not do any tests nor even put his hands on him but his thoughts are early signs of tetanus. Not sure that I agree but...so he says the lock jaw may have just not set in. Said this may have occurred from banding. As for the tetanus anti toxin, it has been back ordered for what seems to be years and literally just came back in stock in limited supply yesterday through Jeffers so I do not have any and the vet says he doesnt either.

 

[caprinelivin]

I'm sorry, tetanus? Does the goat have stiff legs, lockjaw? Neurological symptoms?

Can't grind teeth with lockjaw.

P.S. antibiotics are not what you need to treat tetanus. There is a tetanus antitoxin which is lifesaving.

P.S. if he was given the CD&T vaccine and booster over 2-3 weeks ago, he IS covered for tetanus.

The antibiotics don't hurt with an abscess.

Would you mind sharing photos?

And here is an attempt to load pics!

 

[NigerianDwarfOwner707]

Was he banded? I see no band. If there’s no open would there is no tetanus.

Has he peed yet?

 

[NigerianDwarfOwner707]

What is your evidence that is “an abscess.” To me, it looks like that area could be severely inflamed and filled with blocked urine from urinary calculi.

 

[caprinelivin]

Was he banded? I see no band. If there's no open would there is no tetanus.

Has he peed yet?

his output has been a slow trickle. He is 4 months old. He was banded and completely healed before I got him- you will notice that his testicles ae gone. I do not see any break in the skin. As I mentioned, I do not believe it is tetanus personally, just relaying what the vet said.

 

[NigerianDwarfOwner707]

Tetanus is from an open wound, an active banding site.

What I see is urinary calculi that needs to be treated.

https://thegivinggoathome.files.wordpress.com/2020/08/urinary-calculi-in-goats.pdf

 

[NigerianDwarfOwner707]

How long has the area been swollen and what has indicated to you that it is an abscess? Is it soft, hard?

 

[caprinelivin]

What is your evidence that is "an abscess." To me, it looks like that area could be severely inflamed and filled with blocked urine from urinary calculi.

The pics were taken right after I found him in his condition yesterday. The swollen area was very hard and felt like an abscess of some sort. After I separated him and he settled down he laid down and got relaxed. I was then able to go out and turn him on his side and get a better look at the area. The swollen area seemed to have dispersed, it was no longer localized and concentrated in that area. As i felt along going towards his his rear i could feel knots and the area seemed to harden the further back i went and down into the inner thigh area.
And you are asking questions faster than i can answer lol, however, I appreciate your input.

 

[happybleats]

I agree, ...I would address Urinary Calculi ASAP. That swelling can be from blockage and with a slow leak its relieved some.

 

[NigerianDwarfOwner707]

Based on his diet, you will need to figure out whether to treat for phosphorus caused UC or calcium caused and the link I posted above will explain that.

 

[caprinelivin]

I agree, ...I would address Urinary Calculi ASAP. That swelling can be from blockage and with a slow leak its relieved some.

I have never in 9 years of "goating" had to deal with UC and never heard of it in such a young goat that is not heavily grained especially but I did have a friend recommend another goat friend experienced in such matters since I cannot get a vet out here