Help with Horns

Discussion in 'Beginners Goat Raising' started by Aaron Novak, Oct 28, 2020.

  1. Aaron Novak

    Aaron Novak New Member

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    Oct 28, 2020
    Katy, TX
    Our 6 month old Goer horns are getting sharper horns, he is a house goat. His puppy brother Ash and him play quite a bit and we are worried about Goaty (I know its not that original but that is what our boys named him) catching him with one of his horns. Is there something we can put on them to keep that from happening?
     
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  2. NigerianDwarfOwner707

    NigerianDwarfOwner707 Well-Known Member

    May 17, 2018
    East Coast, USA

  3. Aaron Novak

    Aaron Novak New Member

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    Oct 28, 2020
    Katy, TX
    Thank you, I will have to give the pools noodles a try, Ash likes the Tennis Balls so he ends up taking them.
     
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  4. happybleats

    happybleats Well-Known Member

    Sep 12, 2010
    Gustine Texas
    you could also file the tips so not too sharp. make a habit of filing them when you do his hooves, he will get used to you doing it.
     
  5. Damfino

    Damfino Well-Known Member

    Dec 29, 2013
    Right behind you
    Yes, filing them down with a horse hoof rasp can help dull the tips. You can even take some horse hoof nippers and clip the very ends (about 1/2 inch or less) before filing. This will make a rounder point. Be aware that even dulled horns can injure a dog if the goat decides to play rough, and goats also get very adept at hooking things with their horns, so please watch out that your goat doesn't choke your dog or snap his neck by snagging him under the collar. Use a breakaway collar to avoid that kind of accident.

    You said he's a house goat... is he potty trained? If so, what method did you use? And how do you keep him from jumping on furniture and rifling through your cabinets? Goats are so endlessly curious and food-oriented it's a wonder he hasn't destroyed your kitchen in search of goodies! :)
     
  6. Aaron Novak

    Aaron Novak New Member

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    Oct 28, 2020
    Katy, TX
    Thank you for the tip on the horns, and we will make sure we take his collar off then they play. We are working on the potty training but now, we try and get him down as soon as he gets up on furniture. We also keep his food bin open so he eats when he pleases. Though he does get very curious when he hears a chip bag open up. :clever:
     
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  7. NigerianDwarfOwner707

    NigerianDwarfOwner707 Well-Known Member

    May 17, 2018
    East Coast, USA
    He’s on free choice grain? That’s very concerning especially for a male.

    Is he diapered? I’ve never seen a goat successfully potty trained for pooping.
     
  8. Aaron Novak

    Aaron Novak New Member

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    Oct 28, 2020
    Katy, TX
    Thank you for that information
     
  9. Aaron Novak

    Aaron Novak New Member

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    Oct 28, 2020
    Katy, TX
    Not on the pooping I know there is no hope for that... it just kind of comes out. We give him rolled oats, why is this concerning?
     
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  10. NigerianDwarfOwner707

    NigerianDwarfOwner707 Well-Known Member

    May 17, 2018
    East Coast, USA
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  11. NigerianDwarfOwner707

    NigerianDwarfOwner707 Well-Known Member

    May 17, 2018
    East Coast, USA
    Goats can also get Enterotoxemia, also called overeating disease. Too much grain can throw off their rumen, this can be fatal.
     
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  12. Aaron Novak

    Aaron Novak New Member

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  13. NigerianDwarfOwner707

    NigerianDwarfOwner707 Well-Known Member

    May 17, 2018
    East Coast, USA
    Great. Take a look at the link I sent and it will help you balance his diet and learn about urinary calculi :)

    Free choice hay is good, free choice grain is bad.
     
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  14. Damfino

    Damfino Well-Known Member

    Dec 29, 2013
    Right behind you
    I agree that he should not have access to free choice grain. Free choice hay is fine though. Sometimes you can find hay pellets (timothy/alfalfa mix hay pellets would probably be a good choice) and those could safely be fed free choice instead of oats, but he should still have normal hay or access to grass and/or browse outdoors every day as well. The natural roughage is better for their digestive system than pelleted hay.

    There have been several people on this site over the years who successfully potty trained their goats. I think the easiest would be to teach him to use some type of litter box or one of those indoor fake grass mats for dogs. Goats are very smart and learn very quickly with clicker training. Every time you catch him pooping, grab him right away, hold down his tail so he has to stop mid-poop, and escort him to the designated area. Then let his tail up and when he poops, click your tongue and offer a treat. You may be surprised how quickly he starts racing to the potty area to do his business. Give him a treat each time at first and it will eventually become habit. You can do this for when he pees too.
     
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  15. Aaron Novak

    Aaron Novak New Member

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    Oct 28, 2020
    Katy, TX
    Awesome thank you for that information, I love all the help.
     
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  16. Damfino

    Damfino Well-Known Member

    Dec 29, 2013
    Right behind you
    The cool thing about clicker training is that they associate the click with food and consequently with good behavior. So if you see him go to his potty spot and do his business, you can click your tongue at him from across the room and he instantly knows he did the right thing (and that a treat will be forthcoming!) even if you can't be right next to him when he does the deed. Just make sure that if he runs to you when you click, you take him back to the potty area to give the treat so he knows he must stay there and wait for you to reward him. Once he gets in the habit of going in the right spot you shouldn't need to click and reward every time, but you may want to do it once in a while so he doesn't get lazy. I used clicker training to teach my goat Sputnik to fetch. It's a lot of fun. Good luck!
     
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  17. toth boer goats

    toth boer goats Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Jul 20, 2008
    Corning California
    All very good advice.
     
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