Both seem to have way too much copper to me. The first also has to much selenium. Hopefully these people can help more! @MellonFriend @NigerianDwarfOwner707
Help with Mineral Selection
I have these two minerals in my area. I’ve been reading and trying to figure out which is better but I’m finding it all very confusing. I have two does in milk, a wether, a buck and 4 kids. I wrote them out side by side to try to compare. I would love opinions from more experienced goat people or suggestions for reading to help me make a more educated decision. The one on the left is a beef cattle premix, the one on the right is a dairy mineral (top dress or free choice).
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The other thing to consider is what the goats are already getting in forage, in water, etc. I noticed that the one, Shur-Gain seems like it has a 1:1 Ca
ratio so the buggers would need another source of added Ca. Likewise, I offer 2500-2700 kg/mg of copper free choice to my goats and I still end up supplementing.
ratio so the buggers would need another source of added Ca. Likewise, I offer 2500-2700 kg/mg of copper free choice to my goats and I still end up supplementing.
I'm not sure where in Canada the OP is located but in my part of Ontario we have less than a handful of choices in loose mineral. I have free choice, MasterFeeds Goat Premix and use a 40% supplement in their grain ration (dairy cow supplement). I also have kelp and copper sulfate free choice and just added yellow sulfer to the buffet.
The only other goat mineral I know of is one made by Purina that I have never tried.
There is a real lack of goat supplies here, I had to order the mineral feeders from the other end of the country.😕
not an expert or experienced
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The only other goat mineral I know of is one made by Purina that I have never tried.
There is a real lack of goat supplies here, I had to order the mineral feeders from the other end of the country.😕
not an expert or experienced
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wouldn’t the copper levels being high depend on how deficient the area is?
I was noticing the minerals I use for both my horses and goats is really high… but our area is very deficient. I still have to bolus my goats 2x a year (admittedly, I’ve just been giving 4g bolus even if 150# goat, so not a full dose, but to still boost them some).
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wouldn’t the copper levels being high depend on how deficient the area is?
I was noticing the minerals I use for both my horses and goats is really high… but our area is very deficient. I still have to bolus my goats 2x a year (admittedly, I’ve just been giving 4g bolus even if 150# goat, so not a full dose, but to still boost them some).
Hello!!
Both minerals have problems. The first one is a premix, which means it needs to be combined with salt (that is why the levels of certain things are so high). I try to steer clear of premixes. It is also not properly calhos balanced.
I don't see the salt level of the dairy pride... though I hope it has a fair amount of salt given that the copper is so high. The copper:zinc ratio is drastically off. I am not happy about the level of iron. Truly neither of these minerals will be of benefit to your goats due to so many imbalances. Can you get your hands on Masterfeeds Ranch-N-Range Cattle Mineral with salt?
@MellonFriend I realize the label looks odd, but know that ppm is equivalent to mg/kg
Both minerals have problems. The first one is a premix, which means it needs to be combined with salt (that is why the levels of certain things are so high). I try to steer clear of premixes. It is also not properly cal
hos balanced.I don't see the salt level of the dairy pride... though I hope it has a fair amount of salt given that the copper is so high. The copper:zinc ratio is drastically off. I am not happy about the level of iron. Truly neither of these minerals will be of benefit to your goats due to so many imbalances. Can you get your hands on Masterfeeds Ranch-N-Range Cattle Mineral with salt?
@Boer Mama , your copper levels are okay being that high because the salt level is also very high, leading to less consumption and therefore less copper intake.
@MellonFriend I realize the label looks odd, but know that ppm is equivalent to mg/kg
Thanks for explaining that. Obviously I have a lot to learn 😂Hello!!
Both minerals have problems. The first one is a premix, which means it needs to be combined with salt (that is why the levels of certain things are so high). I try to steer clear of premixes. It is also not properly cal
I don't see the salt level of the dairy pride... though I hope it has a fair amount of salt given that the copper is so high. The copper:zinc ratio is drastically off. I am not happy about the level of iron. Truly neither of these minerals will be of benefit to your goats due to so many imbalances. Can you get your hands on Masterfeeds Ranch-N-Range Cattle Mineral with salt?
@Boer Mama , your copper levels are okay being that high because the salt level is also very high, leading to less consumption and therefore less copper intake.
@MellonFriend I realize the label looks odd, but know that ppm is equivalent to mg/kg
Thanks for the pointer. I can just never seem to remember that. 🤦♀️I realize the label looks odd, but know that ppm is equivalent to mg/kg
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