Thumper and Shiloh, my new does, are so WILD! I wish I was kidding... :roll: I had to do a work over on them of course. So, temp, heart rate, respiratory rate, trim hooves, copper, selenium, de-worm, vaccines....if I would have had an extra set of hands to hold them I'd have drawn blood for CAE, Cl and Johnes. So...this first obtrusive handling has NOT helped my case!! :doh: In fact...Shiloh bit me...hard....gushing blood and everything. :cry: So...How do I tame them down a bit? Shiloh will occasionally take a cookie, but neither approaches me willingly and in fact if I go in their stall (I have them in a 12x12 stall for right now because I just can't handle chasing them around the 20x100 pen they were in!) they just run around me in circles like I'm a lion about to pounce. Of course they are prey animals and I am a predator...so, I don't blame them. But man they are NOTHING like my other goats who are ALWAYS under foot. What do you do to gain the trust of a wild mannered goat? I figured I might go in, catch them once a day, pet them all over, then let them go. Bring in their grain and sit on a chair and just let them eat. Sound like it'll work?