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Discussion in 'Health & Wellness' started by Cedar Point Kikos, Nov 11, 2014.
Hoping they'll like some treats soon. Is 10 weeks to young to drench?
You can drench them.
Can I drench loh herb and garlic at same time?
Mix loh and garlic with water and maybe blend
Yes you just have to blend the garlic finely!
Welp I drenched the little ladies. They weren't very willing participants but it done. They spit out some but anticipated they'd do that and made a bit extra.
So this is the plan moving forward loh parasite formula 1x weekly along with garlic. Is this a good starting point for preventive care for my 10nweek old NDG. Anything I should add?
Sounds great! If you would like you could add essential oils, but it isn't necessary!
Which EO would you add for weekly preventatives?
Here is a thread on EOs that might be of interest to you. It's very long, but very helpful. https://www.thegoatspot.net/threads/using-essential-oils-to-worm.188848/#post-2008853
I just skimmed through this whole thread! What interesting and helpful stuff! I did not know this was here.
Question: if you give your milk goat raw garlic, do you find that the taste comes through the milk? I have a doe with a cough, and I'm thinking garlic could give her a boost, but I am leery of nasty garlic milk.
Some people say that the taste carries through, but most people say that it doesn’t!! You would have to try it yourself!!
I guess I'll give it a shot on a day when I'll be the only one drinking the milk, in case it tastes bad.
So this is my first year of using herbal dewormer (I'm using Molly’s), and I've been doing frequent fecals to determine if it's effective or not. I started out having my vet do fecals, but this last time, I sent the samples off to Meadow Mist. I asked for a Baermann test on one doe, because she had been coughing a bit. I think I'll stick with Meadow Mist until I feel confident to start doing my own fecals, as her breakdown of the results is very helpful.
Anyway, the lung worm FEC is fairly low on the doe that got the Baermann, but her cough has actually gotten worse the past few days. She has 2 types of lung worm; Dictyocaulus & Muellerious. I got the fecal results last night, and this morning I started treating her with mullein leaf, oregano, and a dose of Molly’s weekly formula & tonic (the one that does NOT contain wormwood) morning and night. I do not have any fresh garlic, but I'll start using that when I get more tomorrow. I also gave her a little zinc this morning, since I know that is an immune booster.
Does anyone have further recommendations? I am trying to avoid using wormwood or any other strong herbs, since my sister- in-law, who is pregnant, is drinking the milk from this doe, and several young children are drinking it, as well. I will use something stronger if I have to, but I am hoping to avoid that. I am also not averse to using chemicals, I was just really hoping to avoid that.
Also, should I be concerned that coccidia levels are 'significant' in 2 of my goats? One of them is a pregnant doe, the other 1is a nearly 3 month old kid. They haven't really shown symptoms. I am assuming that maybe Molly’s isn't that effective against coccidia, and maybe I should either add something to it or switch to something else. Thoughts? Attached is a screenshot of the report from Meadow Mist.
Molly’s is a terrible wormer in my opinion. It does not treat coccidia either. You may want to treat chemically for the coccidia - herbal wormers have a harder time fighting it - but Kochi Free and essential oils such as OnGuard from DoTerra work well in my opinion.
If you want to avoid wormwood, keep using Molly’s and add fresh raw garlic and weekly essential oils. https://www.thegoatspot.net/threads/using-essential-oils-to-worm.188848/
Thanks for responding! Have you ever treated lung worm? If so, what did you use? I'm going to go read through the thread on EO's, now.
Only suspected lungworm, cleared up with Garlic, thyme - preferably garlic barrier for the concentrate.
Thanks! I have thyme growing in my garden, so I'll add some of that. What is garlic barrier?
It’s a concentrate of garlic. Usually for garden management.
But to be extra cautious you could just treat them with Ivomec drench.
I really appreciate your prompt responses! I will look into using Ivomec...my main concern is milk withdrawal times. I am thinking that if I don't notice improvement after a few days of using herbs, then I will turn to something else. The essential oils are a good thought. They are just so expensive! It feels like a big initial investment.
You probably won’t notice improvement after a few days of herbs - plus with lungworm, the scarring can last forever.
Ivomec’s milk withdrawal isn’t crazy.
Essential oils are a good investment - they last so LONG!!