For banded horns to fall off? I know that is a general question, but they are 3 yr old Saanen does, so pretty big set of horns on them. For those who are wondering why, I'm thinking of buying those cheap ones (I know I'm supposed to be selling!), knocking the horns off em then selling them on again. Lot of people looking for in milk dairy does at the moment. Just trying to figure out whether it would be better to band the horns or use the embryotomy wire.