How Many Kids Do Nigerians Typically Have?

Discussion in 'Beginners Goat Raising' started by MellonFriend, Aug 31, 2017.

  1. MellonFriend

    MellonFriend Well-Known Member

    I've heard that 2-4 is common. Does four really happen commonly? or is it really more like 2-3, and does 1 ever happen if they are healthy? Also do first fresheners have less kids than they will in the future?o_O
     
  2. IHEARTGOATS

    IHEARTGOATS Well-Known Member

    Jun 14, 2016
    Zebulon, NC
    The highest percentage is 2
    1 and 3 are about the same probability
    4 or 5 is lower
    I had a doe freshen 3,4,3,4
    Her daughter has had 2 twice
    Her granddaughter had 4 as a FF
    I have one doe who has had a single every time
    I've had a couple have 2 every time
    I've had one have 2,2,1,2
    One had 2,3,2

    I hope that helped :)

    I can tell you if I had a choice I would take 2 every time
     
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  3. MellonFriend

    MellonFriend Well-Known Member

    Thanks that really does. How come you would prefer 2?
     
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  4. ksalvagno

    ksalvagno Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Because goats only have 2 teats.
     
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  5. Suzanne_Tyler

    Suzanne_Tyler GreenTGoats

    Jul 19, 2014
    US
    2 teats ;) No uneven udders, no runt that always gets kicked off.
     
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  6. BrokenArrowRanch

    BrokenArrowRanch Active Member

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    Jun 6, 2013
    A doe I sold had 4,3,3,4,2,2,3.her daughter had 2 then 4. Another does had gave me 2 sets of twin bucks grr. And another a set of twin bucks. Having twins is easier. Only doe I trusted to care for them all was the first doe I sold. Regret selling her every day.

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  7. MellonFriend

    MellonFriend Well-Known Member

    Oooh,:rolleyes:, I should have thought of that. That makes a lot of sense.
     
  8. capracreek

    capracreek Well-Known Member

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    Apr 5, 2016
    Missouri
    I have a registered Nigerian doe who had 2 FF and 4 second
    I have another registered who has had 1 each time.
    I prefer two as both get to nurse equally. With 4 it was a struggle making sure all got enough at a feeding. Then the bigger stronger ones pushed the back. 2 is so much easier.
     
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  9. IHEARTGOATS

    IHEARTGOATS Well-Known Member

    Jun 14, 2016
    Zebulon, NC
    2 usually have the best birth weights also
    Say from 2.5 lbs to maybe 4 lbs
    When you get triplets and quads you can have some under 2 lbs
    They can survive down to about 1.5 lbs but takes some work
    i know a couple of people that have had 6 and all survive

    ETA
    I would say the sweet spot is 2 kids about 3.5 lbs
     
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  10. BORGIA

    BORGIA Member

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    Mar 17, 2017
    My mother goat had 2 last year and 3 this year. One of the doelinhs she had last year had 1 this year and the other didn't get pregnant.

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  11. groovyoldlady

    groovyoldlady Goat Crazy!

    Jul 21, 2011
    Central Maine
    Annika (my avatar) had 2,3,2,4. The triplets were all bucklings and she nursed them herself with no problems. By the time she had quads we were pulling babies to bottle feed anyway, so she didn't nurse them. Her daughter has had two sets of twins.
     
  12. daisymay

    daisymay Well-Known Member

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    Feb 13, 2017
    oregon
    My ff 2 year old had a single. I didn't know any better and one side was not nursed on. I started hand milking but wasn't quick enough so she is lop sided this year. I believe she was out of triplets. I purchased her when she had a month and a half in pregnancy left to go. I didn't over feed her as I was worried about having a large single.she was likely to have one as she was checked at osu.
     
  13. Jessica84

    Jessica84 Well-Known Member

    Oct 27, 2011
    California
    I thought they were known for litters! I have a FB friend that raises NDs and hers has quads and quints every single dang time. We have been friends for about 3 years now and so far the smallest I have seen was or had triplets 2 kiddings ago.
     
  14. daisymay

    daisymay Well-Known Member

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    Feb 13, 2017
    oregon
    my ff also didnt get grain, dont know if that makes a difference or not....
     
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  15. mariarose

    mariarose Well-Known Member

    Perhaps @Jessica84's friend is really good at flushing, and also her does are really excellent mothers????

    I know I only want twins. Singles tend to get too large, and litters have "tangling in the womb" issues. Twins are perfect.
     
  16. MellonFriend

    MellonFriend Well-Known Member

    What is this-"flushing"? I have heard of it before and I couldn't seem to really understand what it meant.
     
  17. Jessica84

    Jessica84 Well-Known Member

    Oct 27, 2011
    California
    Maybe so but knowing nothing of the breed and just watching her birth announcements I thought that was the normal thing for these goats!
    Ok flushing, if I can explain it right is right before breeding you jump the protein levels up/up the feed for them. This will not work if a goat is really really in condition though. The body basically kinda says wow we are having a really good year so let's drop some eggs lol since I'm good with twins and detest anything more then 2 and I don't like playing with feed that much lol I don't flush. I did I guess flush on accident for 2 years but didn't have a choice lol I bought some alfalfa hay with a lot of weeds in it and come to find out when those weeds are cut at the right time are super high in protein. Those two years I had the most triplets till last year which I can not explain one bit! I fed straight alfalfa but I guess maybe my parents did a super job on it and it was better then years before, no clue lol
     
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  18. ShireRidgeFarm

    ShireRidgeFarm Active Member

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    Sep 24, 2015
    Northern WV
    Feed flushing (giving a doe extra grain for ghe few weeks before being bred) really increases the number of kids a doe will have.

    I'd say most goats have twins or triplets, but my girls regularly have 3 or 4 kids when I feed flush - my first freshener last year had 4.

    One of my does had just 1 kid at the farm she came from, but she has had 4 kids and then 5 kids for me. She set the farm record!

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