How much milk can we expect from different breeds

Discussion in 'Dairy Diaries' started by Graffogefarms, Nov 5, 2007.

  1. Graffogefarms

    Graffogefarms New Member

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    Oct 11, 2007
    ireland
    Just wondering - about how much milk on average does the different breeds give. I myself have some nubies, Bs, BAs, & BTs and some crosses - most of them kidding next march as first fresheners. I don't have any lamanchas, but hoping sometime to get some.

    Bridget
     
  2. goathappy

    goathappy New Member

    Oct 5, 2007
    Illinois
    I know that your British goats(Saanens, Alpines and Toggs) will milk more than the ones we have over here(something about the Brits have done more selective breeding)
    Anywho, over here average production is around a little over a gallon for Toggs, Saanens and Alpines. I'm not sure on nubians, they tend to vary a lot.
    I have a first freshening Saanen, she has Top Tens on both sides of her and she's milking around 7-8 lbs a day 6 months into her lactation.
    There are several factors on how much they will milk. 1. Genetics, 2. environment and 3. feeding. Having a stress free environment for your goats is very important and how much you feed also greatly influences how much your goats will give. We feed a 12-14% grain mix as well as alfalfa grass mix hay, free choice pasture, and free access to fresh water, minerals, baking soda and kelp. We feed 1 lb of grain for every 3 lbs of milk they give.
     

  3. StaceyRosado

    StaceyRosado Administrator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Oct 4, 2007
    NJ
    I don't have a clear answer on this for you but I wanted to say WELCOME to the Goat Spot Bridget! :D


    so you are working still on importing a lamancha, how is that going?
     
  4. Graffogefarms

    Graffogefarms New Member

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    Oct 11, 2007
    ireland
    lamancha

    Well, still working on it. Hoping for next spring - that our tax refund will go towards that. So far from what I can understand is that while livestock is not allowed to be imported from the US, some areas of Canada are eligible. I have hooked up with a Canadian Livestock co, who have exported cattle to Ireland, and Boers to UK. Oh - I made the final 8 in the Afternoon Show here on RTE Television, Mumtrepreneur. Unfortunately - I don't have a product up and running yet, but I did get some good publicity for goats! The livestock scene has to be watched. The embryos and semen might be the way first, or easiest. Still researching! Bridget
     
  5. StaceyRosado

    StaceyRosado Administrator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Oct 4, 2007
    NJ
    I admire you for your hard work in this area.

    will these be the first lamanchas in ireland?
     
  6. ksacres

    ksacres New Member

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    Oct 30, 2007
    San Antonio Texas
    There are several sites that sell semen on an export basis. It is generally a lot easier to import/export than live animals. As expensive as it would be to import the actual animal, even if you have to buy the tank and all the equipment yourelf, I think this would be a more price concious option.
     
  7. goodgoats

    goodgoats New Member

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    Nov 5, 2007
    Southern California
    I wonder if you could do transfers where you take the semen and egg from two animals and implant it in another animal. The animal you implant it in is only the carrier, it is not the mother. That way you could use lamancha semen and eggs, but implant it in another breed. Just an idea.

    Suriyah
     
  8. goathappy

    goathappy New Member

    Oct 5, 2007
    Illinois
    That procedure is called embryo transfer. That is how they get many genetics from overseas to this country, and vice versa. If you want to find out more about it, go to the Yahoo list LaManchaTalk or a boer goat list on yahoo. Boer goat people do ETs all the time.
     
  9. goodgoats

    goodgoats New Member

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    Nov 5, 2007
    Southern California
    Oh yeah, duh! I just couldn't remember the name ;).

    Yeah, Boer goat people do it a lot. I know a breeder who keeps only a few really nice FB Boer does and bucks, and then has a lot of dairy does who she put the embryos in, and that way you can get the good genetics from certain goats without having to wait so many years and get only a few kids. If you know how to do it, it sure would be a good way to do the Boers!

    Suriyah
     
  10. liz

    liz Active Member

    Oct 5, 2007
    Shelocta PA
    To keep in line with the original question:

    My 2 pygmy/nigerian dwarf does will give me a quart a day each...sometimes a bit more, usually for 3 months then they start to slow down and when it's less and less daily I dry them off. I have them recently dried off and this was after a March and April freshening. Now I only milked 1x a day...but have thought of going to 2x a day next freshening.
     
  11. sparks879

    sparks879 New Member

    A lot of it depends on the genetics behind your does and sires. I just got a new buck, one of the reasons i got him was because of the milk production in his backround. His dam milks about 16 lbs a day as a four year old. His dams dam is a 20 lb a day milker. 8.6 lbs is one gallon.
    I do show my animals, but i like to see a productive dairy aniaml that also does well in the ring.

    beth
     
  12. sparks879

    sparks879 New Member

    A lot of it depends on the genetics behind your does and sires. I just got a new buck, one of the reasons i got him was because of the milk production in his backround. His dam milks about 16 lbs a day as a four year old. His dams dam is a 20 lb a day milker. 8.6 lbs is one gallon.
    I do show my animals, but i like to see a productive dairy aniaml that also does well in the ring.

    beth
     
  13. sparks879

    sparks879 New Member

    A lot of it depends on the genetics behind your does and sires. I just got a new buck, one of the reasons i got him was because of the milk production in his backround. His dam milks about 16 lbs a day as a four year old. His dams dam is a 20 lb a day milker. 8.6 lbs is one gallon.
    I do show my animals, but i like to see a productive dairy aniaml that also does well in the ring.

    beth
     
  14. Graffogefarms

    Graffogefarms New Member

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    Oct 11, 2007
    ireland
    ET

    I have been thinking about the Embryo Transfer, but I need to talk to a few more people and find out more about the procedure. Here is difficult enough to get people to do goats. I was thinking about possibly using Gypsy our hemaprodite - well I know I have to find out if she has a uterus first, and if so, might be a possible, as would our big Tog girl, I use both of them on the cart at the moment, singly. I still researching a lot - amazing how much info there is and equally as much, Its unbelieveable how few Dept of Agriculture & other livestock persons know about goats. All going well - that will be changed!
     
  15. sparks879

    sparks879 New Member

    why did this post my response three times? i only posted it one time....
    beth
     
  16. fritzie

    fritzie New Member

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    Oct 6, 2007
    TENN
    beth i found that every time you hit the refreash button it will post again