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How Picky Should I Be About New Additions?

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So, I am going to try and get a new buck and a new doe next year. I decided to write down all the things I'm hoping to improve in my herd and I'm wondering if it will come across as asking too much when I talk to breeders. How would you take it if buyers ask for all sorts of things and then have to shoot them down if you don't have the traits they are looking for? I guess it's also tough for me with kinders because I don't know if I'm asking for too much. Here's what I'd like to see:
  • Ample width
  • high well attatched udder, both in the front and rear
  • long lactations
  • meat character
  • parasite resistant
  • milks flat
  • Soft, easy to milk udder
  • milks around a half a gallon to a whole gallon a day
  • Has a nice personality, not too shy
Does it sound like I'm asking for the perfect goat? 馃槄 Should I roll back my expectations?
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I would be prepared to compromise on the milking characteristics but not a lot. There are some very physically nice ones out there but I've had a hard time finding productive milkers
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I would rank what is most important to you. See where you may give a little. There are some things that will sacrifice. bit if they aren't "perfect" (cause are any truly perfect lol) but some traits I won't sacrifice on. If it's going to be an improvement overall, then it will be a good buy.
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I don鈥檛 know much about kinders, but wanting all that isn鈥檛 bad, IMO. I also have no clue if it鈥檚 realistic. Like suggested above, I would give your wants a ranking system, so you figure out what are deal breakers and what can be compromised on if they are amazing in other important areas.

As a breeder yourself who sells goats, think of how you鈥檇 like someone to approach you with what they鈥檙e looking for and try it out. Heck, you could make checklist and send it to them and see if they have any the check all the boxes or at least most of them.

You have a good knowledge base and are a nice person, so breeders will likely be willing to work with you to see if they might have the right fit for your herd and goals. And I bet they will like you being upfront with what you鈥檙e looking for. I would assume it helps them help you and doesn鈥檛 waste anyone鈥檚 time.

And on a personal note, I鈥檓 just excited to see your new additions once you get them.
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There is absolutely nothing wrong with knowing what you want with your perfect animal and I think that is the key to success! But sometime finding our perfect unicorn can be hard. So I really like jubillees idea and start with what is most important and go down to what you could live without for now and maybe pick up with your next herd sire or a doe.
And no I don鈥檛 think it鈥檚 too much to list what you want with a breeder. I would not be annoyed, or bothered by it one bit. If someone say here is a list of what I want, especially if it鈥檚 in a order from most important to least, I would just honestly tell you what I have, what those animals meet on your list and what I think they lack on that list. Ultimately I want my buyers to be nothing but absolutely thrilled with their purchase from me so I would rather someone pass and be a potential happy future customer then be a displeased customer.
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I think it sounds like I should not worry so much about people having to say no to my wishes. I know I would not mind if someone came to me with a lot of goals, but I was afraid of coming across as... what's the word... arrogant I guess. 馃槄 I think my list up there is probably pretty ordered. Those top four would be deal breakers, but from there down with a few exceptions like milking amount (wouldn't want a doe that produces less than half a gallon daily at peak), I am probably pretty flexible.

And on a personal note, I鈥檓 just excited to see your new additions once you get them.
I'm very excited and a little nervous. I've never added goats from another farm to my herd. It's going to be a new experience, that's for sure! 馃槂
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I did that with my newest buckling. I told her what I was needing for my herd, what I didn't want to lose in my herd, and some extras that weren't necessary but a bonus. She told me the best matches. I personally like it when people come to me like that. I know they are truly looking to improve and it helps narrow down a lot of question/answer.
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I think it sounds like I should not worry so much about people having to say no to my wishes. I know I would not mind if someone came to me with a lot of goals, but I was afraid of coming across as... what's the word... arrogant I guess. I think my list up there is probably pretty ordered. Those top four would be deal breakers, but from there down with a few exceptions like milking amount (wouldn't want a doe that produces less than half a gallon daily at peak), I am probably pretty flexible.


I'm very excited and a little nervous. I've never added goats from another farm to my herd. It's going to be a new experience, that's for sure!
Just take your time and don鈥檛 settle. I always hate NEEDING to buy a buck because I feel rushed and I don鈥檛 want to settle. Just take your time and of your top goals are not met move on. There is a animal out there with most of what your wanting, it just might take a little time.
Also if your not ready now, I would still start looking at other breeders. They should have kids on the ground and those kids should give you a idea of what a breeder is breeding for and what kind of kids they are producing.
But no I don鈥檛 think anyone would think you are arrogant at all.
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I think it sounds like I should not worry so much about people having to say no to my wishes. I know I would not mind if someone came to me with a lot of goals, but I was afraid of coming across as... what's the word... arrogant I guess. I think my list up there is probably pretty ordered. Those top four would be deal breakers, but from there down with a few exceptions like milking amount (wouldn't want a doe that produces less than half a gallon daily at peak), I am probably pretty flexible.


I'm very excited and a little nervous. I've never added goats from another farm to my herd. It's going to be a new experience, that's for sure!
Just from my interactions with you on here, I don鈥檛 think you could come across as arrogant. If you鈥檙e still worried about that, make it funny or something, like 鈥淚鈥檓 looking for my unicorn kinder. I really like x, y, and z in your herd, so I thought I鈥檇 check in with you on my search. Here鈥檚 what I鈥檇 love to add to my herd in order of priority (starting with what is most important). Do you have any available goats that might work for me?鈥


I鈥檓 a little nervous and excited for you and I have no idea why I鈥檓 nervous too. Empathy nerves maybe? Lol. I hope you keep us posted throughout the process.
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Thanks both of you. 馃槉

I will keep you all updated. The first step will be to talk to the people coming to pick up Prim's kids. After they get back to me on what they might be able to find, I'll start really pursuing other breeders.
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I have had people look at my goats and decide they were not what they wanted/needed/expected. As much as I wanted to sell a goat, I did not take it personally if my goat did not fit with the buyers plans. It was probably best they did not buy a goat they did not really want.

I have no idea how realistic your list is, so I don't know how many goats are out there that would fit you plans. But I would not settle for less until I discovered that my needs were unrealistic.

If I need a 12' long 2"x8" piece of lumber for a project, coming home with a 6' long 2"x4" will not help me. But I might discover that what I need is not available. I would then have to redesign my project to make use of material I can find.
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Not all have the same taste in what they want in a goat.

It is OK for a buyer to not like or want the goat. Don鈥檛 let it hurt your feelings, it doesn鈥檛 always mean it is a bad goat. It just means they have a certain preference. ;)

I do understand that, I get picky too. :)
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