Ok, so only one more topic, I swear. I wanted to separate this out from the other as it is different. The kid looks like a cocci stunted baby. Hasn't grown a bit since I saw her at 4 months old (she is now 8 months old, just got her two days ago.) Her butt is up in the air, but her front end is way down and looks shrunken. She looks like a tick actually. The doe I got with her has a severe selenium deficiency as far as I can tell (very weak rear legs, kid this spring died of white muscle disease.) So, she could have nutritional deficiencies as well. They worm with Safeguard, which I think is non-effective. I wormed with Ivermectin, and am re-worming for two more worm cycles to catch all the eggs. I am also getting some Vit A/E/D/B12 gel in the mail to give to both of them. They have plenty of free choice minerals available (both loose and a block) with a good analysis, should get plenty of copper, selenium, iodine, etc. etc. The block is Champion's Choice Selenium "90"....and the loose mineral is Manna Pro Goat Mineral. I am switching to Purina goat minerals in the next month because I like the analysis better. They are getting as much high quality grass hay as they can. I am picking up some goat specific feed in the next few days. Probably Purina to give to the pair. I have been feeding All Breed to my others when they need it, but I feel these guys need a higher quality feed due to their conditions. What else can I do for her? What are your stories with stunted kids? Do they generally pull out with plenty of TLC and nutrition? What methods worked for you?