:hair: I am going CRAZY. I brought home a bottle baby yesterday, and figured this would be the perfect time to start milking my Nigi doe who kidded in late February... separate the kids at night in a stall with the new kid (so she'd have some friends who weren't big and scary grown goats) and then milk mom out in the morning so I'd have plenty to feed the new kid. Unfortunately I did not realize that my doe is in fact a MULE. I tried milking her last night and literally after half an hour of struggling I got 2 squirts, which I had to catch in a mug, because no way in heck was a pail getting any where near her. So, I had to go to the store to buy goat's milk, which felt somewhat embarrassing. I tried again this morning, thinking that maybe her really full udder would convince her that milking might be a good thing... after 45 minutes I got 1/8 of a mug. IF THAT. I tried putting Hoeggar's humane goat hobble on her, but this doesn't really seem to help at all... then, instead of just kicking one leg, she kicks them both together. And no matter how tight I strap the hobble on she somehow manages to kick it off. And of course she does her absolute best to ensure that her muddy hooves get poopy mud all over the mug, milk, and of course ME. And she doesn't just kick. She wiggles off the stand so that I have to catch her before she hangs herself (neck in stanchion, legs completely off to the side). She arches her back in weird ways to try and prevent me from getting anywhere near her udder. In fact, she is THE DOE FROM HELL. I tried punching her udder. I tried lifting up her entire back end so she couldn't kick, but she somehow kicks. The most frustrating thing is she has a beautiful, gorgeous udder FULL of milk, really nice soft teats, and the milk just streams out... when I can get close enough to press down my thumb and forefinger on the teat because that's all the time I have before she KICKS again. Oh, did I mention, this goat LITERALLY broke the door to my barn with one of her kicks last night?! Like not all the way through, just made a nice shatter-mark in the paint and top surface of the wood. :veryangry: I am going crazy... help. (btw, this is not a FF, and the previous owner did warn me that she doesn't like being milked... silly me, I just thought, well I'll take the time to train her...) Is there anything I can do to convince this doe that being milked by a human isn't the worst thing in the world?!