I purchesed 4 does in milk and a few were kinda thin and not easy to handle so I decided to dry them off. Well I was able to dry off 3 of the 4 does I purchased. The one just didnt want to dry off so I had a friend come out and show me how to milk and we are doing really well now. She is a first freshner Nigerian dwarf and is giving me 10 oz twice a day for a grand total of 20oz every day. She is a joy to milk and really easy. I really love milking and that suprizes me. This girl comes from strong milk lines and got her way and is now my milker. Woo hoo!