I'm afraid my poor boy may have CL....

Discussion in 'Health & Wellness' started by TheMixedBag, Jun 18, 2011.

  1. TheMixedBag

    TheMixedBag The Hoofcare and Repro specialist

    Oct 16, 2010
    Glencoe, OK
    I noticed Barclay has a new abscess today.... :sigh: I just don't know what I'm going to do. His vaccination did balloon up (it went down a few minutes later), but this is on the veeeery outside edge of where the ballooning was, so I doubt it was a reaction (Jenny still has a bit of abscess from the vaccine, so I thought that *maybe* that could be it).

    It's on the shoulder blade itself, and according to the diagram I have on my website, it's not a common CL area, but I do know that they don't always pop up on lymph nodes. It's just barely pea-sized, hard and pretty well rooted to where it is (meaning, I can't move it around at all under the skin).

    What do you all think? Even if it is CL, I'll keep him and manage it the best I can (I have had a goat with CL before, every abscess was lanced, drained and treated at the vets-no bursts here at home), but still...if it is, it's just heartbreaking. No shows, no outside breedings, no nothing for this poor guy.

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  2. icboers

    icboers New Member

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    Dec 6, 2010
    Blue Ridge,TX
    Looks like a granuloma formed at the shot site. They can move slightly from where the actual shot was given. Doesn't look like anything to worry about. Mine have gotten those in the arm pit area from CD/T shots.

    Karla
     

  3. TheMixedBag

    TheMixedBag The Hoofcare and Repro specialist

    Oct 16, 2010
    Glencoe, OK
    My only concern with that is they got their shots roughly a month ago, and he never got any kind of abscess from it that I could see or feel. After the ballooning went down, that was it.
     
  4. toth boer goats

    toth boer goats Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Jul 20, 2008
    Corning California
    If you know... that you have given a shot there.. it has most likely festered.... some don't just popup right away after giving the shot.... if it has only been a month then.... it is most likely from the shot... :wink:
     
  5. TheMixedBag

    TheMixedBag The Hoofcare and Repro specialist

    Oct 16, 2010
    Glencoe, OK
    That definitely makes me feel better. I know he hasn't been in contact with a CL abcess, but since the shot had the Case-Bac vaccine, I went into panic mode. The last thing I want is to not be able to show him.
     
  6. peggy

    peggy Senior Member

    Aug 10, 2010
    B.C. Canada
    Don't panic just yet. My girl has had a injection site lump for a while now. Give it a bit of time and see what happens.
     
  7. naturalgoats

    naturalgoats New Member

    Jan 2, 2011
    maybe have some of the fluid aspirated and send it in for testing?
     
  8. milk and honey

    milk and honey Senior Member

    Oct 30, 2010
    Everett, WA
    My vote is injection site abcess... they are SO common! Keep an eye on it... when my vet saw my does, it was quite full, she just gave it a little squeeze and it ruptured. She wasn't concerned at all, and didn't culture or send it in... Knowing what I do now, I probably would have had it cultured just for peace of mind.
     
  9. TheMixedBag

    TheMixedBag The Hoofcare and Repro specialist

    Oct 16, 2010
    Glencoe, OK
    If it gets bigger, I'll have it cultured, though hopefully it won't get bigger than it is
     
  10. goathiker

    goathiker I'm watching you Staff Member Supporting Member

    If you culture it may very well have CL in it because that's the shot he's reacting to, the Case-bac CL shot. He also is now always going to + on tests for CL and (I just learned today) have false +'s for Johnes disease.
     
  11. TheMixedBag

    TheMixedBag The Hoofcare and Repro specialist

    Oct 16, 2010
    Glencoe, OK
    That's why I never test for anything besides CAE, and that's stopping after this year. There's just too many false negatives and positives, and not enough accuracy for the big ones to make it worth the time and money. After the doe I'm bringing home July 6, I'm keeping my herd a mostly closed herd, except for shows, and if I see a goat that might have something nasty, I'll retest then, but otherwise, I just really don't want to bother.
     
  12. Hidden Waters Farm

    Hidden Waters Farm New Member

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    Oct 3, 2010
    Maine
    I agree that it looks to be a shot reaction site, They are very common and almost always look exactly like that.