Well I have really no idea when my goats were bred because I put them in with the buck and let them romance each other for a month. So I have to just go by the date I put them in the buck and kind of guess. Well Monica was bred on purpose to Cupid but Penny Lane, well I have no idea how she was bred because I never saw or should I say remember them a buck getting to her that early. So Monica has bagged up like triple the size from yesterday morning to today, and her ligs are almost totally gone. She had a little discharge like the plug, so I will have to keep her in her own stall with the new camera on her. I also have Penny Lane that is her mom that has a discharge and then I have Topaz that never had a bag last year and no sign what so ever of her getting ready to kid and she did, So I get to have those sleepless nights now. :leap: OH how I do love them and dislike them at the same time. I will post some pictures when I get back.