So you guys know I've been wanting to breed up a small but high quality dairy herd, focusing on British Alpines. I've been getting increasingly frustrated with the quality (or lack thereof) of BAs within a 10 hr radius of me. There is a stud within 5 hrs of me, who has the best dairy does of any breed, in both body and udder conformation, and milking ability. From their website, they expect their FF does to peak at 13.2 lbs (1 gallon and 4.6 pints) and their second and subsequent lactation does to peak at 17.6 lbs (2 gallon and 0.9 pints). Bear with me on those conversions, I wasnt sure whether you wanted gallons, quarts or pints. They have been breeding for over thirty years. They have bred thirteen Australian champions, eleven supreme exhibit awards at major shows and fourteen most successful exhibitor awards, seven dairy doe of the year awards at a state level. Pictures inside their barn: Pictures of their does in milk: First freshener First freshener This one and the next one showing the udder is the same doe This doe and the next are twins This doe was 7 yrs old when the photo was taken This doe is the one on the right in the next photo. They are on their first lactation in both pics, at 2 yrs old I've reached a point where I am frustrated with the quality available to me,within my breed (BA). The flagship of my herd (Maddie) just died and she was supposed to be the foundation of my BA doe her, since she was one of the highest quality does I'd seen in the breed. At this point, I am just not happy with the quality of the four does I have left - three saanens and 1 british alpine. I am am honestly wondering if I might, at the end of the year, sell these four in milk with kids at foot, and use the money to buy one or two does from this herd. Now, I'm not sure yet whether I should just go into the Saanen breed - there are just so many higher numbers of animals in the breed and thus they have been able to develop the quality so much more. In contrast there are only a handful of BA breeders left across the whole country, and because of that the quality is suffering. Or the other thing I thought I might do perhaps is use these brilliant Saanens to form a base for an upgrading program with the British Alpines, by putting the best BA buck I can find over them. Any thoughts?