We disbudded our nubians because we got them as newborns, but our two boers were weaned when we got them and their horns were well established. I wasn't crazy about it, but it didn't seem to be too big a deal, and it appeared that most people didn't disbud boers anyway. Well, any new boer kids at our house will go under the iron. The horns are just too much of a pain and too dangerous for my liking. When the girls are in heat, my boer buck is swinging his head at anything that comes near, including me, and those big scimitar horns are a hazard to say the least. The more you wrestle with him to keep his horns at bay, the more he perceives the challenge. This morning was really bad and finally I grabbed a few handfuls of water from his bucket and threw them in his face. That seemed to do the trick. I think I'm going to invest in a squirt gun.