Hello everyone. I am new here and pretty new to having goats. I do read this site quite often, but as you can see, this is my first post. Yesterday, I wormed with Ivomec Plus for the first time. I use Fiasco's herbal wormer regularly and consistently, and in addition, I have also used Ivomec injectible (without the "Plus"), given orally, and I have used Safeguard. No wormer injections before for me until yesterday. I have given antibiotics and CDT shots before. I was giving injections to my yearling Lamancha and two fully adult NDs and using 3/4" 20g needles. The Lamancha had never had an Ivomec Plus shot before. The NDs both got it regularly from their prior owner. The dose was at 1cc per 40 lbs, and I gave them behind the knee. The Lamancha shot went fine. Completely unphased. The first ND threw a fit -- just enough of one that I thought she might be having a bad reaction to it. She yelled and pulled on the stand and once out stomped around like something was wrong, but she was fine in seconds. The second ND flipped upside down in the milk stand. When I got her out of the head lock, she flipped over on her side and was shaking her leg and acting like she couldn't walk. I even thought I saw one of her eyes go a little off. I had the epinephrine ready to go and was about to reach for it but wanted to give it just a minute to make sure it really was an allergic reaction. I swear she looked like she was having a seizure. Acted completely insane for a minute. And then she was perfectly fine and finished her breakfast. Best I can think is that my needle was too long, and with all their jostling about, I hit muscle or nerve, which hurts worse obviously. Any ideas? I really hope these NDs aren't going to be like this every time they get a shot, or I may have a similar fit.