if you have the current issue of Ruminations the lil doeling on the front cover is out of a dam I bought from the Gerle Ranch here in North Dakota.. I have the twin sister and an older wether from the same sire and dam that they are all out of..now I know what Elsie Mae's kids might look like and she is already rubbing against poles, fences and human legs trying to get those kids down the highway,, caught her panting just the other day and I ran for the towels.. did she do anything ??? nope.. Here she is.. cant wait.. Congratulations on Ana,, she is adorable...!!!