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i placed a reservation for a 2009 lamancha doe kid from my friend.. well she just got back to me on my choices.. didn't have any pictures of the does kidding, but of their parents and grandparents

well i placed my 4 choices and i think i did ok.. but i'm not all too great with lamanchas yet

tell me if i did good


ok first doe:

a feb 2008 doe out of her GCH doe, high anxiety by larue's Zodan ( has 2 GCH sisters) and is bred to idol ( buck pictured below)

idol is by indulgence (last picture)
 

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my second choice doe i don't have a picture of her mother.. but i have grandma

she is an april 2008 doe out of kaboodle( not pictured) by idol (last post) bred to zodan( sire of last doe)

she granddam and double great granddams tiddlywinks(last picture) who is my favorite but is dying of liver cancer

maternal grandma is boogie ( black and white doe)

also what is really cool is that if kabooki (doe i reserved 2nd choice) didn't settle to zodan, she will breed her to a tiddly winks son for me for free and i can just buy kabookie
 

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Re: if anyone remembers..

and the last two are kind of either or for me

one is the full sister to idol ( father of kabooki and bred to aquarius)

the other is out of iodine.. who has one champion leg and is bred to idol

don't know if you guys could tell or not.. but i really like idol! and though he's a 2 year old he only needs two legs to finish

but aquarius and kabooki's kids are 250

kabooki ( if she isn't bred) is 350

and idols sister and coffee swirl are 350
 

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Re: if anyone remembers... i need mancha help

I think I would have gone the same way as you. First choice would be the doe you posted first, going off her mum who is just WOW - love the good wedge, the capacity of her, the beautifully attached udder and the overall balance and dairy character.

My second choice would be the second doe, to me (again going by the pic of grandma) she falls behind the first because of less strength to the topline, and less capacity in both the body/barrel and udder. BUT - I really like the fact that if she doesnt settle this time round, you get her bred. I really like getting mature animals already in milk or bred because you know exactly what you are going to get (sometimes kids grow out a little different to what we expected) and they are already in production, so it is less time until you are making some money off them.
 

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Re: if anyone remembers... i need mancha help

the lady guarantee's top 3rd placement in classes and a mammary score of at least VG on LA.
she also will replace the animal up to a year after a defect is shown and she will breed for me..

shes a dear friend and her animals are all really nice and friendly.. i just haven't learned whats what with them yet
 

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Sounds like you cant go wrong!

Oh I wish I wish Australian dairy goats had udders like that!
 

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I think they are all great choices, the only thing I see wrong is they appear to be showing a bit of weakness in the rear pasterns, but if these are heavy milking does that is understandable.

Very pretty animals overall :)
 

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Re: if anyone remembers... i need mancha help

Can I ask what herd these goats are from? If she has a website, I'd like to look at it. . . . I'm *thinking* about getting a standard doe to breed for mini's. But I may just purchase a mini-mancha or something. I like them. :)
 

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:? I dont see them being soft in the pasterns at all?
 

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If you look at Boogie I've had goats with hooves shaped like that and hooves shaped like that tend to be weaker in the pasterns, I think that Indulgence appears a little bit weak in the back. I am picky with hooves though, if they are heavy milkers though that may account for it.
 

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yeah I see what you mean about the hoof shape, thanks :thumb:
 

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Re: if anyone remembers... i need mancha help

the herd is woodbine way

she doesn't have a website but she has a myspace with some of her goats... most of them are deceased or dying at the moment... but shes a total herd health nut...

here's her myspace

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu ... =271969402

the does who are deceased are:
CH zill
GCH high anxiety
Boogie

tiddly winks has liver cancer.. so no babies from her

iodine is sold

she still has indulgence and inspiration

and a daughter out of iodine, anxiety ( i get first pick! haha). she has a 07 daughter out of boogie, a 08 grandaughter of boogie, and idols litter mate sister

i've got a list of all her stuff and prices
 

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well.. at least i know more than my sister..

i showed her the pics.. and she said.. the gold ones are ugly .. don't get them

ugh teenage cow queen??
 

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well I showed my little brother the pics of Grace and Kibale and he just said yuck, their udders are too big they look disgusting

:ROFL: gotta love siblings
 

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Re: The manch situation..UPDATE!

ok so... kabooki ( 2nd option) IS bred to zodan.. BUT my awesome friend is still going to let me get her for the price i would have paid if she didn't take which is WICKED AWESOME!

so excited

she does get first pick doe kid back, but i gets the kabooki

i'm so excited
 
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