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Kid loosing weight

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My kids(4) are about 6 months old so for the past three weeks or so I have been introducing them into the herd(3 does). The first couple weeks went perfectly. No one got bullied. I had had the kids in a pen that was sourounded by the doe pen for a couple months now so I figured that’s why the transition went so smoothly. This week however the big does started to get vicious! The kids are terrified of them now. I feed hay in like 7 different places around the yard so the kids still should be able to get food and stay away from the bigger girls. It has been extremely dry here and there is no grass. I’ve been putting out 3x the amount of hay I normally feed and they have plenty in their feeders but still the little goats are trying to nibble at the nonexistent grass which makes me nervous about parasites.

One of the kids in particular is starting to look thin. I weighed all the kids and they all have lost weight in the last couple weeks. Most of them lost 2 pounds(they all weigh 20-25lbs) but the one who looks thin lost 3 pounds. My scale could have been a little wonky the last time I weighed them because they seemed to have jumped quite a bit from the last time I weighed them but still I can visibly see that the one is loosing weight.

I had a fecal run right around the time I started letting them in with the does. All the kids had 0 and the does where in an acceptable range. The kids famachas look excellent. I treat with baycox to prevent coccidia and they are due in about another week for that. Anyways I’m wondering if you all think I should be worried. To get another fecal run would be at least 5 days for results. I’m just concerned because I know how quickly they could go downhill. But I don’t want to overreact if they are just loosing it because they are getting a little more exercise. Would the baycox treat other parasites they might pick up? Should I go ahead and deworm the one that is concerning me or wait for a fecal? I did go ahead and separate them back into their own little area.
These girls were about the same size a week ago.
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It sounds like possible stress. They may be afraid to eat hay even with all those different piles. Can you put them in a different area overnight with their own hay and water?
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I agree with @ksalvagno . Little ones dont do well with stress. For me, i watch for loose stools. Thats a warning I dont ignore.
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Thank you both. That makes sense, this little girl does seem to be the most skittish around the bigger girls and I also just started having them in 24-7 with the adults this past week. I’ll start separating at night again and see if things settle down.
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What about something similar to a creep feeder? A small sectioned off area the kids can go into (a cross board or 2 just high enough for the kids to slip under) and the adults can't jump over, for feeding the kids their pellets and possible a hay ration.
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I agree with NigerianNewbie. I use a creep feeder for my kids to keep the adults form bullying them at feeding time.
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I’m still trying to figure out a creep feeder. The only place I could make it work would be in the barn and the littles would have to get by the big girls to get to it. I am feeding separately in the am and pm and keeping them separate at night and they are all starting to gain weight again. The one doeling still looks a little thin to me but I’m used to them looking extra plump so maybe it’s just that she is aging. I did get a fecal run and still no worms.....except for the little doeling I was concerned about did have one tapeworm egg. Her famacha is still good and she is still gaining weight. Should I be concerned about this?
All goats have parasites. The key is to keep the number under control. How was the coccidea count? That is usually in addition to standard fecal tests.
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All goats have parasites. The key is to keep the number under control. How was the coccidea count? That is usually in addition to standard fecal tests.
No coccidia. Normally I wouldn’t blink an eye at one worm egg. I just didn’t know since she was the only one to have it and the one who originally was loosing the most weight. Thanks! You guys are the best.
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Okay. So it’s been a month and this kid still hasn’t gained weight. I made a creep feeder but they didn’t seem to catch on. So I try to separate them during the day now so they can eat to their hearts content. They are only with the big goats at night and when it’s raining. I upped their grain intake. They each get a half cup of grain and a half cup of alfalfa pellets. I got another fecal run and her FEC was 150. Her Famacha looks good 1 or 2. She seems to be right in line with the rest of the kids weight wise but she looks so thin. She seems to eat just as much as the other kids. None of the kids are gaining a lot of weight. I think they are all on the small side but her sides are sunken in and she looks unhealthy. Am I missing something?
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Is or has the doeling been getting any supplemental Probios or Goats Prefer to boost her rumen health?
Is or has the doeling been getting any supplemental Probios or Goats Prefer to boost her rumen health?
I had given her a little when I upped her feed or if I put them out on a new pasture or something that I thought might be a little change that would be upsetting to her tummy but I haven’t given it to her on a regular basis.
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On your FEC of 150, did it tell you what worm? Brown Stomach, Barber pole, strongoyles? Any name?
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On your FEC of 150, did it tell you what worm? Brown Stomach, Barber pole, strongoyles? Any name?
It didn’t say. It had 0 coccidia and FEC 150.
Could you contact whom ever ran the fecal and ask them which parasite(s) was present?
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The reason I am asking, different worms affect the goat in several ways. Some dewormers work better on certain worms. So if we know the parasite, we can treat it!
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The reason I am asking, different worms affect the goat in several ways. Some dewormers work better on certain worms. So if we know the parasite, we can treat it!
I have someone local do it. She said she can only dofferentiate between stomach worms, coccodia, and tapeworms.
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I know several on TGS use Meadow Mist Lab for fecal information. It would be a good idea to send a sample ,so you can know what worm you are fighting. Barber pole worm can become killing worm. Which you friend didnt mention. Brown stomach worms are like BP worms, but are less deadly. Safeguard will kill BP in most areas. If not it will take combination of wormers. Thats why I was asking what worms. Please keep checking her famacha scores. BP will cause anemia with loose stools, and swelling under the jaw line. She is thinner than the other girls.
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I know several on TGS use Meadow Mist Lab for fecal information. It would be a good idea to send a sample ,so you can know what worm you are fighting. Barber pole worm can become killing worm. Which you friend didnt mention. Brown stomach worms are like BP worms, but are less deadly. Safeguard will kill BP in most areas. If not it will take combination of wormers. Thats why I was asking what worms. Please keep checking her famacha scores. BP will cause anemia with loose stools, and swelling under the jaw line. She is thinner than the other girls.
Okay. So do you believe it is the worms that are causing her to be thin? Even though it’s a low FEC and her famacha looks good. I’m not disagreeing! Just trying to clarify.
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