well if they are boys, they get a buck apron at 7 weeks.most of my boys leave between 8-9 weeks. girls depends on if im keeping, if i keep then they stay on mom until they get weaned.if not they also leave at 8-9 weeks. I start separating when they are not "glued" to mom. She goes out for 15 min or so then works her way up to an hour, bring her back in too feed kids then she goes out again if she wants too. it all depends on mom and kids.