LaMancha doelings; which one would you choose?

Discussion in 'Goat Conformation' started by twokidsandafarm, Mar 20, 2014.

  1. twokidsandafarm

    twokidsandafarm New Member

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    Dec 27, 2013
    Ok, so I posted a thread earlier on about some LaMancha doelings for sale. I'm trying to compare these two does, which one has better confirmation? Which one has a better pedigree and parents? Excuse the overload of pictures. ;) Any opinions would be great! Thanks!

    Doe #1
    Born March 1st. $350
    ADGA purebred

    Dam- http://www.adgagenetics.org/GoatDetail.aspx?RegNumber=L001567932
    She appraised 86 VV+V

    Sire- http://www.adgagenetics.org/GoatDetail.aspx?RegNumber=L001511177
    He appraised 89 VEE

    Doe #1 ImageUploadedByGoat Forum1395364278.839585.jpg
    ImageUploadedByGoat Forum1395364297.106425.jpg

    Her dam ImageUploadedByGoat Forum1395364319.489571.jpg

    Her sire ImageUploadedByGoat Forum1395364337.809635.jpg

    Doe #2
    Born Feb. 27th $350
    ADGA purebred

    Dam- http://www.adgagenetics.org/GoatDetail.aspx?RegNumber=L001444481

    For some reason I couldn't find the sire's pedigree, but here's
    his dam- http://www.adgagenetics.org/GoatDetail.aspx?RegNumber=L001409528
    And his sire- http://www.adgagenetics.org/GoatDetail.aspx?RegNumber=L001511177

    Doe #2 ImageUploadedByGoat Forum1395364794.101793.jpg
    ImageUploadedByGoat Forum1395364813.663301.jpg

    Her dam ImageUploadedByGoat Forum1395364828.273141.jpg

    Her sire ImageUploadedByGoat Forum1395364845.462729.jpg



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  2. canyontrailgoats

    canyontrailgoats New Member

    Jan 4, 2014
    western montana
    I like the second one better. I can't say why exactly, except that she looks longer than the first one, and her front legs look straighter. If that even matters!
    But anyways at first glance I immediately liked the second one more.
     

  3. nchen7

    nchen7 Goatless goat momma

    Feb 25, 2013
    Ontario
    from what I can tell, doeling #1's momma has bigger teats, but her topline isn't amazing. if I were to pick, I'd pick doeline #2, but to make a really educated guess, you should look at udder pics.
     
  4. ksalvagno

    ksalvagno Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

    I like the 2nd one better too.
     
  5. J.O.Y. Farm

    J.O.Y. Farm ~Crazy Goat Lady~

    Jan 10, 2012
    New Hampshire
    I too like the second one :)
     
  6. twokidsandafarm

    twokidsandafarm New Member

    398
    Dec 27, 2013
    Thanks for all the replies! I'll take your thoughts into consideration! :)


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  7. ptgoats45

    ptgoats45 Goat Girl

    Nov 28, 2011
    NE Oklahoma
    Just looking at pics I would go with #2. I don't like the rear pasterns on #1's sire or her dams topline. #2's dam definitely excels in general appearance and her sire looks like a lot nicer buck even though he is younger.
     
  8. fishin816

    fishin816 Raising Nigerian Dwarf DAIRY Goats, registered wit

    Mar 4, 2011
    Southern Illinois
    Most definetly the second one. I like her sire and dam better. She should grow up into a gteat little doe.


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  9. Little-Bits-N-Pieces

    Little-Bits-N-Pieces Active Member

    Apr 7, 2013
    CA
    I'm all about the dam of doe #2, until you get to the udder. If it was a milked out pic, doe #2 has the better parents.
     
  10. ptgoats45

    ptgoats45 Goat Girl

    Nov 28, 2011
    NE Oklahoma
    Yea I would hope that is a milked out pic or a pre-kidding pic.
     
  11. Jessica84

    Jessica84 Well-Known Member

    Oct 27, 2011
    California
    Good thing I'm not a dairy person because I think #1 is cute as heck lol
     
  12. twokidsandafarm

    twokidsandafarm New Member

    398
    Dec 27, 2013
    Ok, so I've gotten some udder pictures. #1's dams' udder looks better, nice attachments, good teats, wide, a bit uneven though, at least that's the way it looked in the picture. #2's dam's udder has bad rear attachments, and it hangs a little low to the ground, the teats go just a little past the hocks, it also is a little uneven. Just looking at the udder pics has probably made my mind about the decision. :)


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  13. Little-Bits-N-Pieces

    Little-Bits-N-Pieces Active Member

    Apr 7, 2013
    CA
    Could you post the udder pictures?
     
  14. J.O.Y. Farm

    J.O.Y. Farm ~Crazy Goat Lady~

    Jan 10, 2012
    New Hampshire
  15. fishin816

    fishin816 Raising Nigerian Dwarf DAIRY Goats, registered wit

    Mar 4, 2011
    Southern Illinois
    Yes we need the udder pics
     
  16. cybercat

    cybercat Owner of 4 La Manachas.

    303
    Oct 17, 2007
    East Tn
    Do the easy thing and take both. :)
     
  17. DesertRose

    DesertRose New Member

    125
    Apr 12, 2013
    Desert SW
    As a LaMancha breeder I would take doe #2.

    My reason is my own but ... I have a three year old that has a nice udder but is not show quality. BUT, breeding her to a really well bred *B has given me the BEST udder I've had in many years on her yearling FF doe.

    This three year old milker, nearly 2 gallons a day, is a huge improvement over her dam who turned 9 this Feb. The older doe is a 2* milker but was allowed to nurse one buck kid
    and they never milked out the other side.
    That doe's udder is horrible on the blown out side. When I bought her in Montana in 08 it was for her bloodline and the amount of milk she gave.
    Each generation has a better udder than the last so ... it was worth the chance I took on her.

    The older doe always gives triplets and all the doe kids over the years have had better udders than their dam so ...

    Are you willing to take the chance on #2 cause doe #1 could skip a generation ... I've had it happen before.

    Good luck and I agree ... get both!:cart:
     
  18. twokidsandafarm

    twokidsandafarm New Member

    398
    Dec 27, 2013

    If I had the barn space and the money I would! :)


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  19. cybercat

    cybercat Owner of 4 La Manachas.

    303
    Oct 17, 2007
    East Tn
    Better make up your mind fast. She is now being advertized on FB.
     
  20. twokidsandafarm

    twokidsandafarm New Member

    398
    Dec 27, 2013

    Ahhh! Ok, so before I go look at them I said I would wait until my Ober doe would kid. She's due on Wednesday, but she usually goes late. :/ The doelings are located 3 1/2 hours away from me, so didn't want to let my doe home alone all day. Anyway, this doe has always had a single, 10lb, buckling. :/ Well, hopefully she'll kid sooner than later. I guess if it's meant to be, they'll still be available.


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