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I'm doing a hybrid dam/bottle raising approach with my kids this year. It's been going great, except that I'm raising 16(?) babies, and have 3 more who I'll start on the bottle tomorrow. It is getting to be really time consuming feeding all those babies! This has me considering a lamb bar.

I have little nigerians- would they even be able to use one? Most of my kids are 6 weeks old now- is that too late to train them? Do I get one that has the nipples at the top and uses straws? Or one that they screw directly into the bottom and don't use straws? Do I get adapters to use the Pritchard teats my kids are used to, or try them on the default nipples? How do I make sure my larger kids don't overeat and my smaller kids get enough? Do I need a nipple for each kid or do they play musical chairs until they're all fed? (Meaning if I have 16 kids does that mean I need 2 since the most they have is 10 nipples?) I was looking at the miniature goat lamb bar from Caprine Supply since it seems to be the most reasonably priced one- any input or recommendations? Thanks in advance!
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Welcome to the wonderful side of a lamb bar. Your life is about to get so much better lol
Ok so this is what I use
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it’s the one shown there. There is a choice for a rubber nipple and a latex, I use the latex. It’s close to the parched nipple and they latch on much faster. I thought about the ones with the lines but I don’t like them sucking any air and I don’t know those lines just don’t seem like they would be easy to keep clean.
Your older ones will put up a fight about it, just keep showing it to them and they will get the hang of it. Hunger honestly plays the hugest roll in them learning. I start all my kids on a bottle with warm milk but then change over at about a week or so, I’ll show it to them about 3X a day and then they eventually realize it doesn’t leave with me like a bottle does.
To keep them from eating too much I use cold milk. It keeps them from pigging out and getting sick. It can also be left out all day (depending on your temps might need ice packs too) and they can nurse as they wish but not over do it, so it’s kinda like if they had a dam.
Everyone has their own way of doing it but this has been amazing for me. Kids grow great, and I don’t have to go out multiple times a day to feed or fill up a bucket for them to eat and no standing there pulling kids off as they look like they have gotten their fair share.
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How did I miss that?? I totally checked Premier 1 and didn't find a lamb bar on there. Thought it was strange they wouldn't have one since they specialize in sheep supplies! So it looks like theirs have 6 nipples, does that mean I'd need 3 setups or is it okay to have fewer nipples than kids?
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The younger and/or less pushy kids may not get enough milk. Adding some bottle hangers might help towards having enough spaces at the milk bar to feed every one at once.
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I couldn’t find a already set up lamb bar on my fast search but you can make them SO easy! I think I once paid extra for the holes already drilled because I couldn’t find my drill but it’s not worth it.
You can choose any bucket you want to choose. It doesn’t have to be theirs although their buckets are nice. And then you can put as many nipples that will fit on the bucket you want.
I think depending on if you use cold milk and if the kids are contained you don’t have to have a nipple per kid. It will be right there for them to choose and if need be they could wait their turn. If they are more wild and free they tend to come in to eat as a little gang, one is not going to leave the others to eat and you will want to have a nipple per kid so they don’t really all get to fighting and kill your nipples (and leak milk out on the ground when they rip it). But if you want to play it safe go with one per kid. The buckets stay good for years, if you choose that nipple system so does the little grey things so it’s not like your totally out the money after this year, it’s just a larger expense for this year.
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Ok well I went ahead and bit the bullet and ordered three whole setups. I hope it works because it was way more than I was planning on spending, but Premier's stuff is usually good and if it saves me time then it's worth it!

Do you worry about the cold milk chilling them on cold mornings? I mean, I'm in California, it's not that we get COLD cold, and my babies are several weeks old now, but I've still been religiously heating their bottles to 101-104 degrees before feeding them. And do you measure out how much each kid SHOULD be getting and put that in the buckets, or do you just fill up the buckets completely and let them eat whatever they want?

Oh and last one for now, but if the nipples tear off is there anything stopping the milk from pouring out? Do the gray valves prevent that?
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Slowly change to the cool milk, otherwise, they won't touch it! Start out in the buckets with the normal hot, then slowly transition to
cool. Generally, those nipples will not tear off. Just check them each time you wash them. (its easier to wash than individual bottles!)
The grey valves are more a foot valve, preventing the milk from going back into the bucket- so the kid doesn't suck air. It keeps the
"straws" filled with milk if that is your set up.
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I just change them over to cold but I also do it at a younger age. Try cold and see how they go, if need be slowly change them over. Just remember it’s the cold milk that keeps them from over eating so while it’s warm or Luke warm keep a eye on them when they are eating so they don’t consume too much.
As for how much when you get them ok with the cold, you will probably have to watch and play. Start with what they normally eat and add more until it lasts for the day or for however long you want it to last. I put enough for a full 24 hours because I want to wash that bucket once a day (this is me you could do it twice if you want). You can take the extra out and put in the fridge when you wash it but I never wanted it to be a over and over thing, the old mixed with the new for a length of time and I don’t want to dump any milk. Hopefully that makes sense it’s been a long day :/ but the idea behind this is so they don’t run out, or if they do not for a long time so they don’t over do it when you put more out again, I think in that case they may end up eating more then they should and get too cold.
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Well, I got my setup in the mail on Sunday and gave it a test run today. It was only partially successful. I had a couple kids who latched on right away. So that was my partial success lol. I also had a couple kids who immediately jumped on top of it. I'm not sure how I'm going to stop that. I ended up putting it on the outside of the pen with a couple nipples sticking through, but it has nipples on 3 sides and sticking it through the pen only allowed access to 1 side. I didn't have enough milk to fill it up too far, so I was also worried about the tilt of the bucket preventing some of the nipples from functioning. And it didn't seem like there was much milk coming out when I tested them, but I was afraid to enlarge the holes in case of leaking. As it was I had one nipple that was dripping. It was a busy day and I didn't have much time to mess with it, so I ended up just going back to bottles for the PM feeding, but I would love to get this setup working! Also, what's the best way to clean these? Do I have to take off the nipples and gaskets each time? Because it was pretty tedious getting them on so they didn't leak in the first place!
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The plastic thing has a marble in it to keep the milk from coming out of the nipples and leaking, and also making it a little harder for the milk to come out so don’t open the holes larger. Keep working with the kids, they will get the hang of it and I promise you when you use this set up again on younger kids it won’t be this hard to get them going on it, so don’t start thinking it was a waste of money.
So where was it leaking from exactly? If from around the bucket being that it’s brand new you might just need to tighten it more. If that doesn’t help by any chance did you get extras washers (the rubber round piece)? If you did try sticking another one on.
If it’s around the nipple, are you putting the nipple on the plastic thing or are you pulling it threw the plastic part that screws on? Sorry for all my “terms” I hope I’m making sense. But you don’t want to pull it threw the part that screws on when assembling it, put it on the plastic thing and then screw the other plastic thing on. Sometimes it catches the nipple and kinda dislodges it off that thing so be careful it does not do that.
So technically I’m sure you should take it all apart every day and clean it. I don’t do that. I only so that every few days and in between I fill the bucket up with bleach water and let it sit and soak for a bit. When I rinse it I make sure that clean water really gets it all out though and tilt it all around with clean water so it moves those marbles around and really flushes the bleach water out.
But if none of this makes sense let me know and I’ll pull mine out and get picture of all the different “plastic” things I’m talking about when I get home from work
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The leaking is from a couple of the nipples themselves, the orifices. Not bad, but a constant drip. Had a little leaking where they met the bucket but I cranked the nut tighter and that seemed to have fixed it. But the nipples just don't seem like they put out much- there's an x pre-cut in them, but it doesn't go all the way through and/or joins at the center, so there's one or two really thin streams. Not nearly what comes out of my pritchards when I use a bottle, but maybe that's to be expected? I'm pretty confident I have the nipples seated correctly on the gray plastic thing. I did buy a couple extra nipples but did not think to buy any extra washers, oops!
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I didn't have time to mess with it this morning before work so I left it outside to dry. Meanwhile, my two indoor bottle babies found it and didn't need any help figuring out how to use it :p So much disappointment on those little faces when they found out it was empty!
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I had a tomato cage on mine to keep the stinkers off it.
I think a plastic cone like is on my chick brooder would work, too.
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