Lame

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  1. D&D Farm

    D&D Farm Member

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    Apr 9, 2020
    Houston, Texas
    Our Nubian buck has been lame on his hind right leg for a couple weeks now. We thought it was his hooves as he probably hasn’t had them trimmed in his life. We built a milk stand and trimmed them and he’s still limping. I put him in the stand a week later and trimmed them again but that didn’t seem to help. Some days he’s limping just a little and others the limp is bad. Any thoughts?
     
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  2. MadHouse

    MadHouse Well-Known Member

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  3. Moers kiko boars

    Moers kiko boars Well-Known Member

    Apr 22, 2018
    Oklahoma
    Do you notice him standing with the toes.down? Does he have trouble walking backwards? Does he wobble when he turns?
     
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  4. D&D Farm

    D&D Farm Member

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    Apr 9, 2020
    Houston, Texas
    I’ve noticed that he does kinda stretch that leg out and walk on the tip of his hoof. I haven’t noticed anything with wobbling or walking backwards. I’ve tried to keep him contained to see if less movement would help but he’s in rut.
     
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  5. toth boer goats

    toth boer goats Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Jul 20, 2008
    Corning California
    Any video of the way he walks?

    Did you check between his toes for sores?

    Is his hooves hot and distorted like laminitis?

    Have you checked his leg for swelling, from the hooves all the way up to the shoulder?

    Check for mites, any scabs around his ankles and legs?

    Swollen knee's or knee?
     
  6. MuldrowBeeandGoatFarm

    MuldrowBeeandGoatFarm Well-Known Member

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    Oct 24, 2019
    Texas
    I was going to ask about the knee or ankle. I've noticed if it rains a lot and is muddy for a few days, one of my girls limps until she gets harder ground to walk on. We always look for a sore spot between the toes. Or a rock that gets lodged in there. Also, how aggressively are you trimming his hooves? When we first got our girls we were very timid because we didn't want to hurt them. After making several posts here, we got more comfortable and it really made a difference. We had 15 limping goats and 2 days after really trimming their hooves, only one was still limping because we had missed a rock that caused a sore. We use Koppertox every month, when we do hoofcare so it has all cleared up.
     
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  7. D&D Farm

    D&D Farm Member

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    Apr 9, 2020
    Houston, Texas
    There are no sores or debris in between his hooves. I think I was pretty aggressive with the hoof trim. I used to be a vet tech so I’m not timid when it comes to trimming nails. I haven’t noticed any swelling of the joints or wounds on his back leg. This started after we treated him for pneumonia with antibiotics. Then everyone gets probiotics in their food every day. I’ll post a video when I can today. I’m currently working so not able to get out there.
     
  8. happybleats

    happybleats Well-Known Member

    Sep 12, 2010
    Gustine Texas
    How serious was the pneumonia? I had a nubian buck some years back that had a serious infection due to some kind of spider bite. Got him through that but he started favoring his front leg. We didn't notice anything specific. With the help of my vet we tried a few things to help him but he got worse. His joints made alot of noise when moved. Vet said Tank had joint ill. When they have a serious infection sometimes that can go sepsis. It can settle in the kidney and bladder or in the joints. For my guy. It settled in his joints and by the time we figured it out he was very sick and we had to let him go.
    I share this because if this is the case here, you need to be aggressive now. Vit c and Dex have shown to heal sepsis in human. He would also need good antibiotics like Baytril.
    Any time I see lameness after illness..i jump on it.
     
  9. D&D Farm

    D&D Farm Member

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    Apr 9, 2020
    Houston, Texas
    It started with our kids getting sick and then it spread to the adults. He had it the worst out of the adults. I wasn’t sure if I should use more antibiotics or not because I read that to many can mess up their gut.
     
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  10. D&D Farm

    D&D Farm Member

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    Apr 9, 2020
    Houston, Texas
    I haven’t found a vet close by that I trust. When the babies were sick the one vet I’m aware of charged $200 for a steroid and antibiotic shot for my two kids and then when they got worse the next day wanted to charge another $200 to put her on I’ve fluids.
     
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  11. D&D Farm

    D&D Farm Member

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    Apr 9, 2020
    Houston, Texas
    I used liquamycin for the pneumonia. Would that be something I should try on him again?
     
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  12. happybleats

    happybleats Well-Known Member

    Sep 12, 2010
    Gustine Texas
    wow..that vet way over charged. Dex is fairly inexpensive.
    He may not be sepsis..but if he were mine, after my experience I would start antibiotics again. Hows his temp been? Appetite? Since you have Liquamycin , then use it 1 cc per 20 pounds once a day for 10 days. I would also give lots of vit c. If you can get Dex. I would give 1 cc per 20 pounds once a day for 3 days then ween him down. So ex: if he gets 6 cc..go to 5 cc the next day. Then 4, then 3 and so forth until no more.
    Probiotics 3-4 hours after antibiotics.
    B complex as a support.
    My buck did not have high fever but did have slight elevation in temp.
    My buck seemed to recover..enough so he bred a few does..i think we stopped treatment too soon and he relapsed..that is when we let him go.
     
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  13. Moers kiko boars

    Moers kiko boars Well-Known Member

    Apr 22, 2018
    Oklahoma
    Dont forget the cod liver oil. It helps the joints & tendons.
     
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  14. D&D Farm

    D&D Farm Member

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    Apr 9, 2020
    Houston, Texas
    How much cod oil should I give him? I’m guessing he’s around 120-130 lbs
     
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  15. D&D Farm

    D&D Farm Member

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    Apr 9, 2020
    Houston, Texas
    Temp is normal. And appetite is good and normal.
     
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  16. Moers kiko boars

    Moers kiko boars Well-Known Member

    Apr 22, 2018
    Oklahoma
    I just gave mine 2 in both the morning & evening feedings. I just squited them in his drench.
     
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  17. D&D Farm

    D&D Farm Member

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    Apr 9, 2020
    Houston, Texas
    Ok we are day 5 of liqumycin and aspirin and tonight will be day four of B-12. He is putting a bit more weight on it but still limping. Should I continue with the antibiotics or maybe change to penicillin?