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A couple months ago I moved my buck in a new pen and he ended up getting a CL abscess. I ended up lancing it and draining it it has been 30+ days since I have done that. Luckily he was in his own pen and it never spread to anybody by him. My question is if I was to put anything else in the pen with him would they get CL from the pen, the soil or even him in any way? My buck has cleared up and is healthy now.
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How did you know it was CL?
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If it was indeed CL and he got it from his pen...then yea..another goat can get it as well. It's best to leave the pen for a CL clinic only. It takes (depending on where you read) 2 to 10 years for it to be safe. There is a discussion. On CL here that Is full of info.
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I never tested it to see if it was. But he ended up having a very large abscess under his ear on his jaw. The person I bought him from said it is most likely CL. (I bought him over a year ago) he developed the abscess a month of two after being in a newly built pen so maybe he could have just poked himself on something? But from everybody I have talked to they said CL. They just couldn’t answer my other questions.
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Its possible he got a spinter rubbing on a fence post or board.
CL pus is clumpy like cottage cheese. Sometimes can be a little watery stuff with the pus..sometimes some blood. Never a awful smell. Without testing you can't know for sure. So now will need to assume CL to be on the safe side. You could blood test him, but not always accurate.
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I just dealt with a suspected case of CL as well....or at least that's what the vet said. It wasn't confirmed through test, but he said it could be spread by flies as well....said that even though I'd never had an issue with it before, flies from an infected cow from the neighbor could spread it. Who would have thunk it? Definitely gonna do more to control flies in the barn this year. The most contagious part was the pus, and we made sure to catch all of it from when we lanced the abscess and burned all materials we used also. Lots of good posts here on TGS about this subject.
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Its possible he got a spinter rubbing on a fence post or board.
CL pus is clumpy like cottage cheese. Sometimes can be a little watery stuff with the pus..sometimes some blood. Never a awful smell. Without testing you can't know for sure. So now will need to assume CL to be on the safe side. You could blood test him, but not always accurate.
Hmm. I don’t know his was more runny but still thick so I don’t know! I’ve thought about vaccinating my does but I’ve heard more people say it just causes more accesses. So I don’t know what to do. Thanks everyone for your replies!
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If it was indeed CL and he got it from his pen...then yea..another goat can get it as well. It's best to leave the pen for a CL clinic only. It takes (depending on where you read) 2 to 10 years for it to be safe. There is a discussion. On CL here that Is full of info.
So leaving the pen for a Cl pen? You mean then if a goat never goes inside that pen, then chances are he never will catch it from that pen? Wouldn’t the sides have to be wood instead of wire so if a new comer rubs the wire he might get cl? What is CL as far as a consistency? Does it only spread by movement of other animals or does it move on its own? Would you double fence the pen, like a wire pen with another fence around it say 2 feet from the interior fence. But my last question , if a pen is a CL pen, would it ever be safe to put another goat in it, even if you thought she/he might have CL. I had one put down that vet said was CL but it was never tested. I would like to know more from you guys on this.
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Testing the pus is the only way to know for sure if it's CL. I bought 5 show girls my first goat year. All had CL. I was given wrong info on what it was. Was told to keep worming, all the while they spread pus on our goat area. Once I took matter unto my own hands, learned what it was, I got it off my property. We culled anyone who had recurring cysts. We designated one pen as our CL pen. In that pen I did all the lancing and flushed of any cysts . The goat stayed there until it was safe. In the mean time, I bleached every surface..even too top layer of dirt snd bleached the rest. Not sure how helpful It was but made me feel better. I would recommend bleaching your pen..wire and wood alike. All feeders, water dishes..ect. just in case. I don't think you need to double fence it off. CL is only passed through the pus and can live in the soil from fallen pus for some years. There is a CL thread on here with great conversation about CL. Just keep in mind...always test the pus no matter what. Especially when CLnis no a common thing on your place.
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Vaccines from what I read mY slow them down. But doesn't stop and the goat will always test positive. There are good reasons to vaccinate. If CL runs In your herd or if neighboring farm has it thick in their herd are a few I have heard people vaccinate for. Not all cysts are CL. This is why testing is so important when it's new to your herd.
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