Thank you all for being patient with me! I watched Stacy's ligament video (multiple times) and have been checking my girls to where I actually feel proficient checking them now...well, except for on the nubian who has such a boney rump I can't tell if it's ligs or hip bones but that's another issue....and so is the doe who has dancing ligs who come and go on different days and even multiple times a day. They couldn't make it easy for a newbie now could they? My question is about a ff yearling boer/kiko doe who appears to be close to kidding. She has her ff udder filled in (within last week). Today I checked her ligs (and so did a very experienced goat lady who came out). The ligs are easily felt at the base of the tail where it meets the spine, and then they dip WAY below the tail bone and disappear before where they should attack to the pin bone. She is obviously hollow on both sides of the tail (just looking) and hollowed in front of her hips. In the last 24 hours she has dropped to where she looks more deep and less wide. So what would you call those ligs? Soft? Dipping? Mushy? Gone? They were hard pencils previously, just like her two yearling sisters and it's easy to feel on the ff. Thanks for helping me learn!!! I promise with 7 girls going this year I should get good at checking the ligs.