Looking at Some New Does

Discussion in 'Mini Mania' started by capriola-nd, May 27, 2009.

  1. capriola-nd

    capriola-nd New Member

    Jul 6, 2008
    Northwest Oregon
    I am looking at adding one or two new does to our herd. They are from the Pholia Farm herd. I have admired their goats for quite some time. . . So, there are four does for sale. I can only get two, at the most.

    First, a 2-year old milking doe from very nice lines. Rosasharn's SS Aquarius +B*S x Twin Creeks Hot Latte *M
    http://pholiafarm.com/Andante7-08.jpg

    Second, a 1.5 year old milking doe, also very nice bloodlines. Pholia Farm KM Riot *B x Pholia Farm RA Chanel 2*M
    http://pholiafarm.com/Bambi.JPG


    Third, a bred doe (moon spots). Bred to a GCH +B buck for fall kids. QSF Quite a Scandal *S x Esperanza Pico De Gallo*D AR
    http://pholiafarm.com/DewDrop6-06.JPG http://pholiafarm.com/DewdropRear.JPG
    Nice qualities to her udder but definitely not perfect. I am not caring so much that she is an older-styled doe, that is easy fairly easy to work with. Udders are super important to me right now.

    Fourth, a bred doe. Bred to same buck as the third doe. From the Jobi herd. Not too thrilled with her udder. . .
    http://pholiafarm.com/Amor.jpg http://pholiafarm.com/AmorRear.JPG

    I am leaning mostly towards the first and second does. . . the bred does are quite tempting though but I can only get two, at the very most. Who would you get?

    Here is the breeder's website. http://pholiafarm.com/Sales.htm

    I am also thinking about a *B buck kid they have for sale. Really nice milking lines behind him.
    http://pholiafarm.com/Midas%20Touch%20H ... 20buck.JPG
     
  2. sparks879

    sparks879 New Member

    I really like the first doe. She is very dairy uphill tight smooth shoulders long neck. the only thing i noticed right off the bat is she toes out in both front and back
    beth
     

  3. RowdyKidz

    RowdyKidz Senior Member

    Apr 2, 2009
    NW Ohio
    I like the 1st and 3rd. But I have limited knowledge. :wink:
     
  4. BetterBuckskins

    BetterBuckskins New Member

    386
    Feb 1, 2009
    Taxachusetts
  5. liz

    liz Active Member

    Oct 5, 2007
    Shelocta PA
    Thats tough, I really like the udder on the third doe but like the build of the last doe over all the others. I don't know the "perfect" udder but the third does looks like something I would have no problem milking, maybe have her teats a tad bigger though. The fourth doe has a build that I really like, tight shoulders, uphill stance and a bit more of a level rump, her udder could use a higher rear but then again you have seen what my girls have....lol
     
  6. StaceyRosado

    StaceyRosado Administrator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Oct 4, 2007
    NJ
    if udder is most important to you - you need pictures of the 1st adn 2nd does udders to make a decision. Because based on the body pictures of the 3rd adn 4th does they are nice.....but you dont like their udders. to be fair you need udder pictures on the 1st and 2nd does :thumbup:
     
  7. goatbless

    goatbless New Member

    43
    Jan 10, 2009
    Florida
    If it were me I'd get the first and third does from the pictures they have on their site.
     
  8. capriola-nd

    capriola-nd New Member

    Jul 6, 2008
    Northwest Oregon
    Stacey, I was waiting on pictures and received them just now. They were not totally filled. . . I like 2nd doe's udder better but the first and second doe are being sold as a pair. They both have nice medials. Bambi (the 2nd doe) has better teat placement/size.
     
  9. SDK

    SDK New Member

    Jun 26, 2008
    Yucaipa ca
    lol I've always loved andante so .. thats a duh for me..



    but .. i'm leaning away from dewdrop... i didnt like her mom..at all

    The Jobi doe isnt bad..

    but.. if you get one of bambi's udder.. it'd be easier
     
  10. keren

    keren owned by goats

    Oct 26, 2008
    Australia
    from these pics, I'd take the first and fourth does, very nice girls
     
  11. sparks879

    sparks879 New Member

    you could always get the pair and then resell the doe you didnt like. If you dint like her.
    beth
     
  12. ksacres

    ksacres New Member

    161
    Oct 30, 2007
    San Antonio Texas
    The first doe is by far the nicest overall (IMO).

    I would stick with just her, and save your extra money. Eventually another really nice doe will come along and you will be glad you did. It's always much easier to buy an animal than it is to sell one.
     
  13. Firestone Creek Farm

    Firestone Creek Farm New Member

    432
    Jul 11, 2008
    NC, USA
    I prefer 1 and 2. Two has nice shoulders and her rump isn't steep. She also looks like she has good legs and well positioned feet. Number one DOES toe out, so you'll have to make sure you have a buck that can fix that. I'm a stickler when it comes to legs. No use having a fantastic udder if the legs and feet can't support it. The feet are hidden in some of the other pics; I'd have to see those up close. At least you know what you're working with when it comes to the first two.