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I'm currently searching for a boer blood line for meat goats not show goats. I've noticed that boer bloodlines have Lost there way, seems everyone went to breeding for show any suggestions
I would suggest you reconsider your current opinion. ABGA Boer show goats are actually evaluated by real livestock judges who are certified through a rigorous training and evaluation. If you have ever met one of these judges, you would know they are not flakey wanna bees, but farmers and ranchers who have years of experience with the Boer breed. Inherently, the goats they select at a show they are judging would be the goats they would most like to put into their own herd if they could. Their selection criteria is up on the ABGA website for all to read. You will notice the standards are for a breed of goats bred for meat. Simply put, I'm saying the best Boer bloodlines for "meat" are the same as those for "show". The difference IMO is that those condemning the show goats have never had their goats subjectively evaluated by anyone. You are taking their word for it.I'm currently searching for a boer blood line for meat goats not show goats. I've noticed that boer bloodlines have Lost there way, seems everyone went to breeding for show any suggestions
I would suggest you reconsider your current opinion. ABGA Boer show goats are actually evaluated by real livestock judges who are certified through a rigorous training and evaluation. If you have ever met one of these judges, you would know they are not flakey wanna bees, but farmers and ranchers who have years of experience with the Boer breed. Inherently, the goats they select at a show they are judging would be the goats they would most like to put into their own herd if they could. Their selection criteria is up on the ABGA website for all to read. You will notice the standards are for a breed of goats bred for meat. Simply put, I'm saying the best Boer bloodlines for "meat" are the same as those for "show". The difference IMO is that those condemning the show goats have never had their goats subjectively evaluated by anyone. You are taking their word for
I agree you don't have to show your goats for them to be good goats. That's silly. But what I see happen is people accusing the goats that show breeders have as somehow *not* being good goats. OR good "meat" goats. That's even sillier and is border line lying. For the most part, ABGA judges have no idea what the "bloodline" of a goat in the ring is. They are judging the goat.Show goats are meat goats, just fancier, when conditioned.Most are easy keepers and have meat on their bones for more meat per lb.
You feed them differently of course, if you want to raise them for meat, you want less fat on them, but carcass weight, will be better, if fed properly.
You don't have to show them to own them. Bloodlines really don't make the goat, it is the way they are bred and matched up.
if you want that and want more meat..
So basically ur saying a grand champion goat is the best goat I can buy for meat?I read your reply that is now edited, Silver Star.
I'm sorry you feel that way, but you asked for good bloodlines for boer meat goats. If you are working off the assumption that bloodlines that are successful in the show ring are not good bloodlines for meat goats, you have wiped out the vast majority of good bloodlines period. For meat.
If you are wanting to find a breeder that has reasonably priced, hardy, good mothering, type Boer does for sale, then you should say so.
Hopefully Pam Toth won't mind me using her as an example... Pam has awesome goats. All you have to do is look at the pictures of them. I don't think Pam shows that much, but her goats are registered. If you look at the pedigrees of Pam's goats, you will see many of the very same foundation goats that are found in pedigrees of the successful show goats. Good is good. Bad is bad. It has nothing to do with the papers. Show Boers are meat goats.
I'm saying if you are looking at Boer bloodlines, you shouldn't consider successful show goats as inferior. But to your new question, if you were looking for a buck to buy, yes, a buck that was grand champion at competitive ABGA show would likely be a good buck to buy to sire meat goats. He would have been evaluated by an expert against many other nice bucks. If I was buying him, I would also want to know what his and his mother's teat structure is. If price of the grand champion was way more money than you wanted to spend, then you might consider a son of his. If I was only raising commercial goats, I would be more likely to try and buy (hypothetical) the buck kid that got 3rd - 7th in the GC's class of 20 bucks. Actually, an ABGA show is a great place to buy a reasonably priced, yet reasonably awesome, buck. Come see me. I'll sell you one.So basically ur saying a grand champion goat is the best goat I can buy for meat?