Looking for Central California Breeder

I'm in Utah and got my last goat from sweetgoatmama in Oregon.

I am very pleased with size and temperament. I took delivery sight unseen at the last rendy when we met in Wyoming.

I have two that I got from a local breeder of "pack goats" which are not nearly the size and though I got them at about the same age, they are not nearly as gregarious as 'Pig'.

I almost took some goats from Colorado, but in casual conversation they let out that they thought 140#s was a large goat. Some pack goat breeders are just dairy goat breeders pawning off their unwanted male stock.

Though there are no standards, I don't consider a goat less than 200# a pack goat, it is merely a goat that packs. I am sure I will get in trouble for that statement ;-)

I guess I'm saying that the initial investment in traveling to get one is small compared to the investment of time and energy through the rest of its life that I will buy from a distance from good stock.

The biggest goat I had ever seen in my life a guy had purchased from Butt-Head Packgoats. I went up and met the family at Butt-Head and saw their goats, they were very nice people and the goats gorgeous.

Although I never met Rodney York in person, I emailed and talked on the phone and he was very helpful and he sent me photos of some of his wethers and they were also nice looking pack-goats. He told me he had done a 50 day solo trip in the mountains with three of his goats - wow. Since he did have some adults available, I may buy my next one from him (IF I buy another).

My just about 4 yr old Saanen wether originally came from Carolyn Eddy but I bought him from a guy in Redding, CA. The goat weight-tape says he's around 195 pounds, but could be a little more, not sure. He's a nice goat too! My just about 9 month old Saanen came from a random person and not from pack-goat stock, so we'll see. Weight-tape says he's about 110 pounds, but not sure how accurate that is. He's got a lot of get up and go on the trail though!