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looking for like minded people to start a "back-to-the-basics" farm/community/lifestyle.
i want to start a community of sorts. a community where people can live with nature. with food that we raise and grow, without harmful chemicals or fertilizers. with housing that is off-grid and low-impact. a life without in-your-face consumerism, traffic, fossil fuels, etc.
i imagine wheat, corn, oats, hay. goats, horse, chickens, ducks. fruit trees and berry patches. children singing and talking as they tend the garden. children playing between yurts, tipis, hogans, and dug-out homes.
 

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They tried alot of those back in the 70's. I don't know of any that worked out.

Human nature is what it is: Some will work hard, others won't. Some will agree to rules and abide by them, some won't.
But, over time the hard workers will resent the others, and the rule breakers and abiders will come to issues.

In Jamestown, nobody owned property for the first four years, all work was communal, and all the harvest was centralized in a single storehouse, and, as you might expect, since there was no reward for working harder, nobody did. Historians record that after four years, no crops were planted, houses were falling apart, and the prime occupation of the men was bowling in the streets. The Jamestown Colony ultimately failed.

In contrast, a few hundred miles to the north, the Pilgrims settled. Their reason for coming to America was faith and freedom. Duty was their common currency. They quickly abandoned the socialistic model of Jamestown and gave every member a plot of land.

In just one year, in spite of losing half their members to a wintry horrible death, the Pilgrims of Plymouth were so prosperous, they were able to celebrate the first Thanksgiving.
http://www.aproundtable.org/tps.cfm?ID= ... de=history

You might be able to find a very small group that can work together, but you will also have to set aside personal areas, where they can have individual things. Good luck!
 

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There is a goat dairy here in S. Oregon that is trying the
Ownership goat milk program.

You buy a share of the goat.
I think you still pay for the milk.
It is called maintenance and caretaking
for your goat portion.

They are doing it because of the Goverment regulations
and liability issues.

If you are part owner of the goat. You can drink
the raw milk legally.

R.
 

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I know a lady who did that too.

It is just a way around the ruling that you have to be inspected, and licensed to sell milk, and some areas you can't sell raw milk at all.

I have mixed feelings about it, because, some places are dirty and the people are careless. I would want to go milk the goat for myself, then I know it is clean milk... and if I had no room to have one, or only needed limited milk, that could be great! There needs to be accountability... at least the consumer watching the milking process and knowing the product is clean.

Milk is very perishable, and handled wrong, can make you very sick. I drink raw milk, make raw milk yogurt, butter, and buttermilk, even beginning to learn to make cheeses, they are still flopping, but at least the flops are edible. But, I am clean to the extreme with my milk.

That said, raw milk is better for us, and goat milk is A2 just like human breast milk.
http://www.maternity.org.nz/pdfs/THE%20 ... OVERSY.pdf
Some cows are also A2... guernseys, Jerseys etc.
 

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I agree with you.

I have my thoughts on how raw milk needs to be
taken care of. Besides clean. I like mine cooled
as fast as possible. And with the lid off. So as
not to seal in flavors.

I guess if I was in a situation to have to buy raw milk
I would want to have free access to the milking situation.
And do my own surprize inspections.

I am sure the person doing this would not like it
me just showing up. LOL
 

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you think like my husband. he wants a like minded community where they do have goats, chickens, other animals, gardens, and so on.
we live in a yurt and have goats, chickens, a horse, sheep and share a garden with his parents and we are planning to move up to horsebend idaho to get farther away from too many people. we are planning to sell our yurt which it might be all ready sold and build a underground house and try to do that same thing your doing. It is all fun.
 

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raw goat milk is the best!

i want to build my own house or get a tipi, maybe a yurt. i live on the edge of town and i absolutely hate it!!! everyone says hi to me though becuase the town is in a valley so you can hear my two goats just about anywhere in town.

wish there was some land for sale by me... its just houses and tiny lots... ick!
 
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