Luna's fecal quick help needed

Discussion in 'Goat Frenzy' started by Thanatos, Mar 30, 2009.

  1. Thanatos

    Thanatos New Member

    937
    Mar 16, 2009
    Lake Ariel, Pa
    Luna's fecal came back and its coccidia some endo thingy what meds do I need again?
     
  2. kelebek

    kelebek New Member

    Oct 5, 2007
    South Texas
    You can use Corrid (available at most supply stores locally), Di Methox (can order through Jeffers or Valley Vet in a powder or a liquid), or Albon (prescription from the vet - expensive!)

    Did they say how high the count was? Reason I ask is that most adults have a few cocci - but if they are really bad, I would say get something in them sooner or later.
     

  3. Thanatos

    Thanatos New Member

    937
    Mar 16, 2009
    Lake Ariel, Pa
    I forgot to ask(just called him again waitin for call back). What count should I worry about? Her poo is normal again(after moldy feed was pitched) she eats milks plays and her temp has been normal. Should I just treat?
     
  4. liz

    liz Active Member

    Oct 5, 2007
    Shelocta PA
    Yep...what Allison said :thumbup:

    And she's very right, unless there is a high cocci count, she likely doesn't have coccidia....all goats carry them regardless.
     
  5. Thanatos

    Thanatos New Member

    937
    Mar 16, 2009
    Lake Ariel, Pa
    But what count should I worry? As I am sure the guy and lab have know idea :? (this is why i gotta learn to do it myself) I really appreciate the help guys.
     
  6. liz

    liz Active Member

    Oct 5, 2007
    Shelocta PA
    I am thinking that a "few" is like 1-5 anymore than that should be treated.

    As Allison said, you can get the meds to start treating BUT you would also need to watch the youngsters as well...they can pick up the shed oocysts and get an overload as well. Also, if you need to treat for coccidia, you cannot drink the milk for 2 weeks, though it won't hurt the babies and it can be given to chickens, pigs etc with no ill effects, I would continue to milk her as you have been to keep her production going, just don't drink the milk.
     
  7. kelebek

    kelebek New Member

    Oct 5, 2007
    South Texas
    Thanks Liz :hi5: I had to step away from my desk
     
  8. Thanatos

    Thanatos New Member

    937
    Mar 16, 2009
    Lake Ariel, Pa
    Ok and just follow the drench instructions on the corrid right not the water thing it says?
    (my wife just bought the 16 oz bottle, we couldn't afford the albon $70 for 5mg)
    The drench is like 1oz per 100#. And the kid is like 20 lbs, the nigies(2) are each round 40-50ish.
    should I jsut treat em all? Luna is the only one who had any symptoms.
     
  9. liz

    liz Active Member

    Oct 5, 2007
    Shelocta PA
    I would treat the kids, the other adults would benefit by not shedding the oocysts but if you just treat the kids and Luna, th others would be fine, just watch for signs like the diarrhea. and yes, you dose straight from the bottle, no mixin and about 2 days after the treatment is done, give them some B-complex as coccidia treatments deplete the thiamine levels.
     
  10. Thanatos

    Thanatos New Member

    937
    Mar 16, 2009
    Lake Ariel, Pa
    How close do I have to measure the dose? I mean is it easy to od them? And the treatment is once a day for 5 days right? sry I am away from all my resources right now and I want to be ready for when I get home from work.
     
  11. liz

    liz Active Member

    Oct 5, 2007
    Shelocta PA
    Follow the label directions for doseage, I've not used this type of tretment before so I would not be the one to"guess" at doses.

    Once the treatment is finished, it is reccomended to give the B-Complex 2 days after the last dose, Coccidia feed on B vitamins, coccidistats such as Corid depete the thiamine levels to "starve" the cocci so it does need to be replenished after the treatments.
     
  12. Thanatos

    Thanatos New Member

    937
    Mar 16, 2009
    Lake Ariel, Pa
    And this is given with a syrenge and squrited at the back of the tounge with head held so the neck is extended so it goes in the right stomace area and also dosent get aspirated?
     
  13. liz

    liz Active Member

    Oct 5, 2007
    Shelocta PA
    Yes, do not tip the nose upward.

    1 oz is equal to 30cc. so if thats the dose for a 100# goat then 15cc will treat 50#......and 7 cc will treat 25#, 3 1/2 cc for 12.5 lbs
     
  14. Thanatos

    Thanatos New Member

    937
    Mar 16, 2009
    Lake Ariel, Pa
    I got about 30cc in her. I drew 33cc, steep learning curve for the doser here :) . I have never seen her make that face. She pulled her lips back exposed her teeth and gum shook her head back and forth while moving her bottom jaw back and forth "EEEEWWWWWW that stuff was aweful!!!!!!!!!!!" hee then she got her grain and we milked. I still havent heard from my poo guy. He didnt even know what coccida was he tried to sound out the worm name to me. Then I asked waht to treat with and he said he didnt know. :veryangry: I really gotta learn how to do my own fecals