Malnourished rescued pygmy goats what can I do at home for them other then their feed and hay?

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Sumosi

Discussion Starter · Mar 7, 2022 (Edited)

As the vet said in addition to the coccidia, they are severely malnourished does anyone have a home made vitamin packed recipe that I could try and feed them?

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GoofyGoat

· #2 · Mar 7, 2022

Aw, they’re cute!
You’ll probably want to take a stool sample to the vet and have a fecal done to see if you’re dealing with parasites.
What’s their diet like?

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littleheathens

· #3 · Mar 7, 2022

The dirty bottom is presumably diarrhea due to parasites. Try feeding quality mineral, hay and fresh water only until the problem is figured out. How's their FAMACHA? Collect a stool sample and take it to a vet for fecal testing.

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toth boer goats

· #4 · Mar 7, 2022

Looks like it is cocci.
But getting a fecal for worms
And cocci may be wise, so you know how to treat.

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Sumosi

Discussion Starter · #5 · Mar 7, 2022

Thank you all for your comments. We took Millie to the vets in the end looks like it is coccidia. He said she is in a very bad way so we have brought them both to sleep inside the house. Given medication fingers crossed she will pull through. Vet said 50/50 chance. Apparently they are both extremely underweight too which is not helping. So now i can only hope with all my heart that she will survive and know the best life.

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ksalvagno

· #6 · Mar 7, 2022

That was great that you took them in. I hope they do well for you.

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MadHouse

· #7 · Mar 8, 2022

Sending good vibes for them. I hope they will be ok in the morning.

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Sumosi

Discussion Starter · #8 · Mar 8, 2022

GoofyGoat said:
Aw, they’re cute!
You’ll probably want to take a stool sample to the vet and have a fecal done to see if you’re dealing with parasites.
What’s their diet like?

Well we were advised to feed them hay and a feed called creep. But the vet said their both mal nourished so will have to do more homework. Its so sad .

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MellonFriend

· #9 · Mar 8, 2022 (Edited)

You can do a couple of things to support them. Daily probiotics, flat room temperature dark beer, offer a bucket of electrolytes along with clear water. Coccidia can really damage their gut so probiotic and beer would help. How do their coats feel? Are they rough and course? Being in Ireland, I'm not sure what you can get, but I'd maybe to a few rounds of replamin gel if their coats look rough. And of course make sure they have hay 100% of the time. What you vet means by creep feed, is that they can have a grain or pellet available to them free choice.

You can try Tummy Tamer. It will help with the Coccidia and help heal their gut:
1 teaspoon each
Cayenne pepper
Ginger
Cinnamon
Clove (to address coccidia)
Slippery Elm Powder
ACV
Molasses
20-30 cc water. Blend smooth with a few garlic cloves...drench 2x a day. If dose is too large..split in half and do 4x a day.

It's awesome that you are giving them a chance! I wish you the best of luck! 👍

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Sumosi

Discussion Starter · #10 · Mar 8, 2022

MellonFriend said:
You can do a couple of things to support them. Daily probiotics, flat room temperature dark beer, offer a bucket of electrolytes along with clear water. Coccidia can really damage their gut so probiotic and beer would help. How do their coats feel? Are they rough and course? Being in Ireland, I'm not sure what you can get, but I'd maybe to a few rounds of replamin gel if their coats look rough. And of course make sure they have hay 100% of the time. What you vet means by creep feed, is that they can have a grain or pellet available to them free choice.

You can try Tummy Tamer. It will help with the Coccidia and help heal their gut:
1 teaspoon each
Cayenne pepper
Ginger
Cinnamon
Clove (to address coccidia)
Slippery Elm Powder
ACV
Molasses
20-30 cc water. Blend smooth with a few garlic cloves...drench 2x a day. If dose is too large..split in half and do 4x a day.

It's awesome that you are giving them a chance! I wish you the best of luck! 👍

Thank you for your advice - Coats are rough and course as you said will try and make up your suggestion. Called the vet again her head is leaning to one side its so sad dont know what else can be done. Her twin Tilly seems to have improved . Its very frustrating as if it were my dog the vet would keep her in and possibly put her on a drip. Dont get me wrong he is very good but just feel so helpless.

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happybleats

· #11 · Mar 8, 2022

Coccidia can cause polio as it feeds off their thiamine. What treatment for coccidia are they getting?
Also if you can get fresh of frozen colostrum to feed them a little daily for 3 to 5 days it can help heal some of the damage the coccidia did.

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MellonFriend

· #12 · Mar 8, 2022

Sumosi said:
Thank you for your advice - Coats are rough and course as you said will try and make up your suggestion. Called the vet again her head is leaning to one side its so sad dont know what else can be done. Her twin Tilly seems to have improved . Its very frustrating as if it were my dog the vet would keep her in and possibly put her on a drip. Dont get me wrong he is very good but just feel so helpless.

What kind of coccidia medication are they on? If it's anything but Amprolium (active ingredient) I'd give them injectable vitamin B complex or thiamin if you can get it.

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ksalvagno

· #13 · Mar 8, 2022

What country are you in? Creep feed in the US just means a place to leave out feed constantly for young goats. Creep feed isn't a specific feed.

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Sumosi

Discussion Starter · #14 · Mar 8, 2022

ksalvagno said:
What country are you in? Creep feed in the US just means a place to leave out feed constantly for young goats. Creep feed isn't a specific feed.

Ireland its called Creed

Contains cooked soya beans, peas, barley and maize.

It was recommended but sadly she has stopped eating. Going now back to vet to see if he can give her some nutrients. Sadly they do not have a drip for goats . Im hoping he will give me some powder just to build up her strength. I have given her some pro biotic via syringe at least want something in her to be able to fight the fight also been giving her electrolyte every 2 hours.

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ksalvagno

· #15 · Mar 8, 2022

Poor thing. Good luck with them.

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happybleats

· #16 · Mar 8, 2022

You could also make smoothies for them to get good nutrition in them...dark greens like Kale, Romain lettuce (no iceberg lettuce) kelp, alfalfa, a but if spinach and beet greens. Add a carrot and celery and chopped apple and a fresh raw garlic clove or two. Blend smooth enough to syringe feed(drench) if needed. Feed about 30 cc every few hours. Keep roughage put for them free choice like a grass hay, safe leaves and vines from your area.
Daily probiotics is great.

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Jessica84

· #17 · Mar 8, 2022

You have good advise here!
I just want to add 2 supplements I SWEAR by for cases like this is Dyne and calf manna, although I think I like dyne more. We tend to want to throw everything we can at them though so whatever you do to nice and slow feed wise. Their little bodies have been threw a lot so you don’t want to stress them out by going from very little to over doing it

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toth boer goats

· #18 · Mar 8, 2022

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ksalvagno

· #19 · Mar 9, 2022

OP lives in Ireland.

Sumosi

Discussion Starter · #20 · Mar 9, 2022 (Edited)

Thank you all for your comments and advice. Sadly little Millie died this morning at 4:30 we were up with her all night gave her everything we could with the tools that we had. . At Least she left this world loved in the short space she was here with us. It cost nothing to be kind and if you can't be kind then don't be cruel. All our animals are rescued from terrible abuse. Dogs Chickens Ducks Horses and goats don't know what any of them went through and to be honest would not want to know just know that the psychological damage never ever leaves them . R.I.P baby Millie.

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